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Apple's MLX adding CUDA support

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548 points nsagent | 9 comments | 14 Jul 25 21:40 UTC | HN request time: 0.257s | source | bottom
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MuffinFlavored ◴[14 Jul 25 22:52 UTC] No.44566235[source]▶
Is this for Mac's with NVIDIA cards in them or Apple Metal/Apple Silicon speaking CUDA?... I can't really tell.

Edit: looks like it's "write once, use everywhere". Write MLX, run it on Linux CUDA, and Apple Silicon/Metal.

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MBCook ◴[14 Jul 25 23:06 UTC] No.44566337[source]▶
Seems you already found the answer.

I’ll note Apple hasn’t shipped an Nvidia card in a very very long time. Even on the Mac pros before Apple Silicon they only ever sold AMD cards.

My understanding from rumors is that they had a falling out over the problems with the dual GPU MacBook Pros and the quality of drivers.

I have no idea if sticking one in on the PCI bus let you use it for AI stuff though.

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1. xuki ◴[14 Jul 25 23:35 UTC] No.44566488[source]▶
That particular MBP model had a high rate of GPU failure because it ran too hot.

I imagined the convo between Steve Jobs and Jensen Huang went like this:

S: your GPU is shit

J: your thermal design is shit

S: f u

J: f u too

Apple is the kind of company that hold a grudge for a very long time, their relationships with suppliers are very one way, their way or the highway.

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2. bobmcnamara ◴[15 Jul 25 00:25 UTC] No.44566704[source]▶
S: omg so thin!!1!1!!l!
3. rcruzeiro ◴[15 Jul 25 00:58 UTC] No.44566881[source]▶
I think the ones that failed were the AMD ones, specifically the old 17 inches MacBook Pro.
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4. sciencesama ◴[15 Jul 25 02:18 UTC] No.44567260[source]▶
And so is the same with nvidea too
5. roboror ◴[15 Jul 25 02:32 UTC] No.44567326[source]▶
D700s dying in the trash can Mac Pros cost me (and many others) a lot of time and money.
6. MBCook ◴[15 Jul 25 03:06 UTC] No.44567504[source]▶
I had 15” MBP, maybe a 2010, that was dual GPU with an Nvidia that was definitely a problem.
7. narism ◴[15 Jul 25 03:21 UTC] No.44567565[source]▶
The MBPs didn’t run too hot, the Nvidia GPUs used an underfill that stopped providing structural support at a relatively normal temperature for GPUs (60-80 degrees C).

GPU failures due to this also happened on Dell/HP/Sony laptops, some desktop models, as well as early models of the PS3.

Some reading: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devic...

8. sciencesama ◴[15 Jul 25 13:50 UTC] No.44571168[source]▶
Are you watching the bear ?
9. spectre3d ◴[17 Jul 25 17:25 UTC] No.44595762[source]▶
They were Nvidia failures due to a manufacturing defect. My 15” 2008 Nvidia 8600-equipped MBP was repaired out of warranty (for free) for this issue.

All MacBook Pros from late 2007 to 2010 used Nvidia GPUs, not AMD.

Search “nvidia 8600 fail” to read more.