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al_borland ◴[] No.44545060[source]
Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.
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pjmlp ◴[] No.44545382[source]
A monopoly achieved thanks to everyone that forgot about IE lesson, and instead of learning Web standards, rather ships Chrome alongside their application.
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echelon ◴[] No.44546519[source]
The answer is antitrust.

The FTC / DOJ should strip Google of Chrome.

Honestly, they should split Google into four or five "baby Bell"-type companies. They're ensnaring the public and web commerce in so many ways:

- Chrome URL bar is a "search bar"

- You have to pay to maintain your trademark even if you own the .com, because other parties can place ads in front of you with Google Search. (Same on Google Play Store.)

- Google search is the default search

- Paid third parties for Google search to be the default search

- Paid third parties for Google Chrome to be the default browser

- Required handset / Android manufacturers to bundle Google Play services

- Own Adsense and a large percentage of web advertising

- Made Google Payments the default for pay with Android

- Made Google accounts the default

- Via Google Accounts, removes or dampens the ability for companies to know their customer

- Steers web standards in a way advantageous to Google

- Pulls information from websites into Google's search interface, removing the need to use the websites providing the data (same as most AI tools now)

- Use Chrome to remove adblock and other extensions that harm their advertising revenues

- Use Adsense, Chrome performance, and other signals to rank Search results

- Owns YouTube, the world's leading media company - one company controls too much surface area of how you publish and advertise

- Pushes YouTube results via Google and Android

... and that's just scratching the surface.

Many big tech companies should face this same judgment, but none of the rest are as brazen or as vampiric as Google.

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worik ◴[] No.44546824[source]
Yes to everything except the first statement:

> The answer is antitrust.

Anti-trust is crucial to make the capitalist economy work prperly, I agree

But another answer is "Firefox"

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orwin ◴[] No.44549516[source]
> Anti-trust is crucial to make the capitalist economy work prperly

No it isn't. If you want your capitalism to be liberal, you need antitrust, true. If you only want capitalism, and don't really care about the 'liberty' part, you can check the mercantile capitalism of old. It worked quite well for people with power.

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Ygg2 ◴[] No.44549582[source]
> If you only want capitalism

Yeah, I prefer not to die in a coal mine at ripe age of 14, so a coal baron can increase their wealth by 0.001%.

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1. worik ◴[] No.44564166[source]
Totally

Capitalism is defensible as an economic system

It is indefensible as a social system. It must be subordinate to the social arrangements

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2. Ygg2 ◴[] No.44571370[source]
I agree. The endgame for capitalism is a mega-corp roleplaying as state. You get food, housing, and so on, but you may never leave it. You will live however long the CEOs need you to live and not a second more.