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landl0rd ◴[] No.44544935[source]
> conservative Christians are trying to eliminate ALL sexually-related speech online

I don’t really appreciate this framing. Despite being a very conservative Christian (at least in many ways, if not others) I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a locked-down “second internet” for minors.

But I do understand the impetus. As a zoomer, I’ve heard the problems particularly young men addicted to pornography have caused with some gal friends of mine they’ve dated. I’ve seen the normalization of what I view as degenerate sex acts as the treadmill of endlessly-escalating erotic-novelism spins without ceasing. I’ve watched people become more absorbed in their strange autosexual fixations than their spouses. It doesn’t seem good, or healthy, or sustainable, and I resent the contributions the proliferation of online pornography has made to these issues.

At some level I see this like sixties versus modern marijuana, where a more mild herb (or dad’s playboys beneath the mattress) has been supplanted by THC distilled and bottled into vapes (endlessly-available presence of any outlandish fetishistic stuff.) I wouldn’t like my child exposed to either but I can live with one.

Of course, I see it as primarily the parent’s responsibility to inculcate the virtue to disdain both. The state can’t nanny its way out of this one. But it’s always easier to pick a scapegoat that can’t vote (tax the corporations/rich, make the corporations implement age-filtering, etc.) than to tell people to take a hike and learn to parent.

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gamblor956 ◴[] No.44545840[source]
normalization of what I view as degenerate sex acts

Those "degenerate sex acts" were normal enough when the Bible was written that they were included in the Bible.

Most of our ancestors would regard modern Americans as hideously prudish.

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landl0rd ◴[] No.44546173[source]
Something being normal doesn’t make it right. Obesity is normal. Shoplifting has become normal in many places. People getting drunk is normal. Normalcy doesn’t equal moral rectitude.

Why do the opinions of my ancestors bear on that, and which ones are you talking about? Most of the ones I can think of, unless you run back to the days of tribal europe, would see the culture today as hideously liberalized. Regardless a lot of my ancestors probably did a lot of things I don’t think are right. Heck, I’ve done plenty of things I don’t think are right. None of that effects what actually is and isn’t morally good.

If I’m not running around telling off couples who leave the bar together, what do you care?

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1. landl0rd ◴[] No.44555716{4}[source]
What makes me a "homophobic bigot"? If I believe sleeping with a woman before y'all marry is wrong, am I a premarital-sex-phobic bigot? Maybe standing with signs and saying mean things to people who do so, or lobbying to ban doing so, would qualify, but I'm not doing those things with either belief.
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