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Let me pay for Firefox

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802 points csmantle | 3 comments | 13 Jul 25 08:38 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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freediver ◴[13 Jul 25 12:41 UTC] No.44550004[source]▶
Browser is the most intimate piece of software we have on our computer. Paying for it (vs someone else paying for your browsing) is a no brainer.

From day one Orion browser [1] has been designed with this business model in mind.

Napkin math also shows that if only 5% Firefox users decided to pay for it, Mozilla would not only replace Google search deal revenue but also align incentives with its users, leading to a better product down the road.

[1] https://kagi.com/orion

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1. Palomides ◴[13 Jul 25 15:05 UTC] No.44550941[source]▶
converting 5% of users to paying is frankly beyond plausibility, if they got 0.1% I'd consider that a miracle
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2. freediver ◴[13 Jul 25 15:59 UTC] No.44551329[source]▶
Only if the product sucks. Kagi converts at much higher than that. It incentivizes you to create a better product, a wonderful positive feedback loop.
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3. atrettel ◴[13 Jul 25 19:23 UTC] No.44552795[source]▶
I pay for Kagi. I generally find it to be adequate at the moment --- not wonderful, but better than other options available. And unlike other options, Kagi is improving slowly over time.

That said, your point about the incentives is spot on. It is the primary reason that I pay for Kagi: they have the incentive to deliver good results and even improve. They even talk about this on their website [1].

[1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...