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802 points csmantle | 3 comments | 13 Jul 25 08:38 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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gr4vityWall ◴[13 Jul 25 10:08 UTC] No.44549048[source]▶
I used to want to donate to Mozilla Foundation, but I've long lost any hope that the corporation would spend that money in a way that makes sense to me. The pessimist on me would expect donated money to be spent on more built-in "campaigns", "studies" or ads. Or maybe a bonus for their executives.

I just want Firefox to be faster. I'm donating to Floorp (a Firefox fork), at least they seem focused on making the browser better.

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weego ◴[13 Jul 25 10:40 UTC] No.44549236[source]▶
The sheer volume of sidequest projects they've put resources into that were clearly self-indulgence projects from internal staff, that had no obvious market need or target user-base put me off years ago.

They're kept in existence as a cost of doing business for the likes of Google, purely to ward off browser monopoly claims, and absolutely do not deserve to be taken seriously, or be given private funding.

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nabakin ◴[13 Jul 25 13:56 UTC] No.44550497[source]▶
They're trying to diversify their revenue so it doesn't all come from Google. All these 'self-indulgent projects' are attempts to actually make enough money to compete with a multi-trillion dollar company's resources because they know they can't compete long-term.
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1. ricardobeat ◴[13 Jul 25 14:04 UTC] No.44550545[source]▶
The parent is referring to things like Coop (social media), SkyWriter (IDE), Persona, Solo (website builder), “data futures”, Servo [1], “big blue button”, most of them have little to no potential for revenue.

Meanwhile you can’t really have more than a few YouTube tabs open in FF otherwise it starts freezing, and it’s been behind Safari in adding new features for a while.

[1] including Servo here since it seems to have had no real roadmap to become integrated into FF, making it more of a vanity project - it’s already thirteen years old at this point

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2. IshKebab ◴[13 Jul 25 14:11 UTC] No.44550591[source]▶
> including Servo here since it seems to have had no real roadmap to become integrated into FF

They integrated at least a couple of components from Servo into Firefox before they cancelled it, so I don't think that's fair.

> it’s already thirteen years old at this point

Mozilla only developed it for 8 years.

3. godelski ◴[14 Jul 25 02:49 UTC] No.44555976[source]▶

  > The parent is referring to things like
The person you're responding to is also referring these things. Failing to make revenue is different from not trying to make revenue.

  > you can’t really have more than a few YouTube tabs open in FF otherwise it starts freezing
I have a bad habit of opening lots of tabs. It can get to several hundred, with dozens specifically pointing to YouTube. I've never had this issue. Firefox sleeps tabs after inactivity and they've done this for some time now. Eats your swap and might need to reload it you go a month without touching it, but no freezing. Both on Linux and OSX.

  > it’s been behind Safari in adding new features for a while.
What features? I'm not trying to be snarky or anything, it's just that ime Safari is the least feature rich browser out there. I don't use it much so I can miss things, but I'm legitimately curious