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al_borland ◴[] No.44545060[source]
Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.
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pjmlp ◴[] No.44545382[source]
A monopoly achieved thanks to everyone that forgot about IE lesson, and instead of learning Web standards, rather ships Chrome alongside their application.
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brookst ◴[] No.44546268[source]
Consumers never really pick products for ideological reasons, no matter how galling that is to ideologues
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1. pyrale ◴[] No.44549198[source]
Oh no, instead consumers pick products because of advertising.

What an improvement.

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2. onion2k ◴[] No.44550612[source]
Consumers pick _largely_ based on cost and features, with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second. However, consumers can only pick an option from choices they've heard of. Advertising is about getting into the list (and influencing choice a bit by demonstrating the brand image); the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase.
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3. brookst ◴[] No.44551719[source]
Being prescriptive about human nature will always be frustrating. You and I can argue about what consumers “should” do but the reality is they will always pick the highest perceived benefit at the lowest perceived cost, even if deeper technical knowledge or improved ideological perspective would change those choices.
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4. pyrale ◴[] No.44551946[source]
I don't really mind about what people should do. Cats should probably not kill birds when they aren't hungry. But my opinion has no bearing on cats.

My lament is more about the current situation and our apparent inability to escape it.

In this case, I may also be annoyed a bit about your rant on ideologues. Just because people don't make decisions based on their ideology doesn't mean they don't make decisions based on ideology.

5. GoblinSlayer ◴[] No.44552826[source]
They have nothing to pick, google already picked chrome for them.
6. account42 ◴[] No.44557877[source]
And this is exactly why ads should be illegal in a capitalist society.
7. account42 ◴[] No.44557883[source]
> with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second

I don't think that's true at all - usually brand comes first and ethics are not even considered.

> the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase

Not at all, the consumer only needs to be made to believe that it's a good choice which is very far from being the same thing.

8. smaudet ◴[] No.44565381[source]
Yes, and so you should always assume every (large) company is lying through it's teeth as hard as it can, because it is in their best interest to confuddle the consumer as much as possible...

It's not ideaology to want things to work. Last time IE lost because it lost sight of the fact that it was utter dogshitte.

Chrome is now utter dogshitte, users will (eventually) be unable to ignore that...