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landl0rd ◴[] No.44544935[source]
> conservative Christians are trying to eliminate ALL sexually-related speech online

I don’t really appreciate this framing. Despite being a very conservative Christian (at least in many ways, if not others) I don’t approve of or agree with the scope of SCOTUS’ current ruling, nor do I approve of all the age- verification laws as written. It seems futile to attempt to make everybody everywhere do this and create a locked-down “second internet” for minors.

But I do understand the impetus. As a zoomer, I’ve heard the problems particularly young men addicted to pornography have caused with some gal friends of mine they’ve dated. I’ve seen the normalization of what I view as degenerate sex acts as the treadmill of endlessly-escalating erotic-novelism spins without ceasing. I’ve watched people become more absorbed in their strange autosexual fixations than their spouses. It doesn’t seem good, or healthy, or sustainable, and I resent the contributions the proliferation of online pornography has made to these issues.

At some level I see this like sixties versus modern marijuana, where a more mild herb (or dad’s playboys beneath the mattress) has been supplanted by THC distilled and bottled into vapes (endlessly-available presence of any outlandish fetishistic stuff.) I wouldn’t like my child exposed to either but I can live with one.

Of course, I see it as primarily the parent’s responsibility to inculcate the virtue to disdain both. The state can’t nanny its way out of this one. But it’s always easier to pick a scapegoat that can’t vote (tax the corporations/rich, make the corporations implement age-filtering, etc.) than to tell people to take a hike and learn to parent.

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gamblor956 ◴[] No.44545840[source]
normalization of what I view as degenerate sex acts

Those "degenerate sex acts" were normal enough when the Bible was written that they were included in the Bible.

Most of our ancestors would regard modern Americans as hideously prudish.

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1. EasyMark ◴[] No.44548355[source]
Most of the BS from modern christians is a byproduct of the church trying to control every aspect of a person's mind and body rather than being an expansion of their spiritualism. Traditional religion does not like free thinking amongst its worshippers. Puritans were amongst the worst and they have a huge influence on early Americans and their religions.
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2. landl0rd ◴[] No.44555730[source]
I agree with this to an extent actually, which has led me to conflict strongly with the structure of most denominations. There are a few exceptions (the Roman Catholic Jesuits are a good example) but I'd actually say the Roman Catholic Church contributed far more to the Church-as-a-power model than Puritans overall. That aside, some days, I get as much from reading Eckhart or Kierkegaard as a Newman or Aquinas.