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1034 points deryilz | 14 comments | 12 Jul 25 19:06 UTC | HN request time: 1.218s | source | bottom
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al_borland ◴[12 Jul 25 20:51 UTC] No.44545060[source]▶
Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.
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phendrenad2 ◴[12 Jul 25 21:09 UTC] No.44545185[source]▶
A lot of people seem to believe that switching to a de-Googled Chromium-based browser isn't good enough. I think that's a psyop promoted by Google themselves. Firefox is different enough from Chrome that it's a big jump for people who are used to Chrome. Brave, custom Chromium builds, Vivaldi, etc. are all very similar to Google Chrome, they just don't have Google spy features.

The argument that "Google still controls Chromium so it's not good enough" is exactly the kind of FUD I'd expect to back up this kind of psyop, too.

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sensanaty ◴[12 Jul 25 21:36 UTC] No.44545393[source]▶
> Firefox is different enough from Chrome that it's a big jump for people who are used to Chrome

I find this notion completely baffling. I use Chrome, Firefox and Safari more or less daily cause I test in all 3, and other than Safari feeling clunkier and in general less power-user friendly, I can barely tell the difference between the 3, especially between chrome and FF (well, other than uBlock working better in FF anyways).

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1. xboxnolifes ◴[12 Jul 25 22:33 UTC] No.44545751[source]▶
Firefox has multiple, user-affecting, memory leaks related to Youtube (unconfirmed if just youtube), going back at least 7 years. Tab scrollbar as no option to be disabled, so I had to write CSS to get tabs into a form close to what I would like similar to chrome. Tab mute icon has no (working) option to disable the click event, so I had to write CSS to remove it.

I made some other changes, but I forget what. At least FF still has the full uBlock Origin.

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2. oblio ◴[12 Jul 25 23:07 UTC] No.44545977[source]▶
Just bite the bullet and use Tree Style Tabs or Sideberry.

I didn't, for decades, but it was a mistake.

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3. XorNot ◴[12 Jul 25 23:48 UTC] No.44546232[source]▶
The average user does not notice any of these things.

Except the YouTube thing but that's because I'm not even sure what you're talking about: I leave YouTube windows open in Firefox for weeks.

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4. Brian_K_White ◴[13 Jul 25 00:19 UTC] No.44546381[source]▶
"memory leaks related to Youtube"

News to me.

If this is even true, in the end it's still "so what?" Meaning, the alternative is even worse so, let's say granted there is this problem. Where is the better alternative that does not have this problem? Chrome doesn't have other equivalent or worse memory problems? Even if not leaking, it simply uses so much it's the same end result.

I've never consciously noticed a problem with youtube so if there is a problem, it's not one that necessarily matters.

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5. batiudrami ◴[13 Jul 25 01:31 UTC] No.44546733[source]▶
Firefox now has vertical tabs built in. Not as feature filled of course though tab groups and vertical tabs together replaces all the functionality I needed from Tree Style Tabs.
6. fud101 ◴[13 Jul 25 02:44 UTC] No.44547081[source]▶
Bro you probably have a monster mac pro with 256gb unified ram. I'm typing this on a N100 minipc. We're not the same. I just tried to switch to firefox (with 3 tabs including HN and youtube) and my load topped out at 2.5. I'm back to chrome now with the same tabs (and a couple more) and it's hovering at 1.
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7. ndriscoll ◴[13 Jul 25 04:26 UTC] No.44547502{3}[source]▶
I've been using an n100 as my daily driver for months with librewolf and it's fine. I tend to end up with dozens of tabs at least before I finally decide I'll never sort through them and close the window.
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8. fud101 ◴[13 Jul 25 04:50 UTC] No.44547614{4}[source]▶
16gb of ram also? I think it's youtube more than anything else. I am having a lot of problems with youtube, my other machine is a netbook which crashes while listening/watching to videos on youtube. Not sure why we put all our content (software engineering, etc) on that platform. It's awful.
9. fc417fc802 ◴[13 Jul 25 09:47 UTC] No.44548926[source]▶
I can confirm the youtube issue. No idea if it might be some edge case with my distro or hardware. Forcing a GC collection helps but input events to the entire browser still feel laggy until I restart it. It's been going on for years now.

It occurs to me that it could be a pathological edge case triggered by ublock and youtube interacting. I'm not going to disable it to find out.

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10. immibis ◴[13 Jul 25 15:08 UTC] No.44550971{3}[source]▶
Go to about:processes and kill the YouTube process. All YouTube tabs and embeds will be marked as crashed, with a button to reload them. The memory leak will be reset and you won't have to restart the whole browser.
11. xboxnolifes ◴[14 Jul 25 00:34 UTC] No.44555186[source]▶
Chrome has never crashed on me from Youtube memory leaks. Firefox has.
12. xboxnolifes ◴[14 Jul 25 00:35 UTC] No.44555201[source]▶
I'm pretty sure the memory leak applies the longer you navigate the same youtube tab. If I browse a lot in one day it gets to the point of crashing if I don't open a new tab/window.
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14. mvieira38 ◴[14 Jul 25 17:05 UTC] No.44562534[source]▶
FWIW I've been experiencing memory leaks on web Youtube for a month or two even on Chrome, particularly with livestreams