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al_borland ◴[] No.44544145[source]
All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID?

If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and websites shouldn’t want to shoulder the responsibility for it.

It seems like this could work much like Apple Pay, just without the payment. A prompt comes up, I use some biometric authentication on my phone, and it sends a signal to the browser that I’m 18+. Apple has been adding state IDs into the Wallet, this seems like it could fall right in line. The same thing could be used for buying alcohol at U-Scan checkout.

People should also be able to set their browser/computer to auto-send this for single-user devices, where it is all transparent to the user. I don’t have kids and no one else’s uses my devices. Why should I need to jump through hoops?

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1. phendrenad2 ◴[] No.44545750[source]
> Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID?

They won't have to, most websites will use 3rd party age verification. This is basically what Doordash and Uber Eats use to verify your age before delivering alcohol or THC to your apartment.

Rife for abuse? Absolutely. Will these databases get leaked and increase the chances of your identity getting stolen? Yes. But isn't a small increase to an already-existing problem.

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2. sethammons ◴[] No.44549109[source]
Those drivers check my ID at the door.
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3. phendrenad2 ◴[] No.44554019[source]
You didn't have to provide your ID when you enabled alcohol delivery? That's how it works in California, at least.
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4. sethammons ◴[] No.44557012{3}[source]
I have never interacted with the app. I just show ID if those are in the order and I am the one answering the door.
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5. phendrenad2 ◴[] No.44561674{4}[source]
Ah I see, thanks for clarifying that your response was uninformed.
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6. sethammons ◴[] No.44567601{5}[source]
I don't understand your seemingly petty and demeaning retort. What makes me uninformed? It sounds like you were the one who was unfamiliar with the ability to interact with door dash with an ID and not having to upload it.

I have accepted door dash as a non-door dash customer. They check for ID. Just like the store.

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7. phendrenad2 ◴[] No.44567916{6}[source]
It actually wasn't petty, demeaning, or a retort. I was just summarizing.