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Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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1036 points deryilz | 15 comments | 12 Jul 25 19:06 UTC | HN request time: 1.703s | source | bottom
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al_borland ◴[12 Jul 25 20:51 UTC] No.44545060[source]▶
Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.
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high_priest ◴[12 Jul 25 20:58 UTC] No.44545103[source]▶
Its not happening
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agile-gift0262 ◴[12 Jul 25 21:22 UTC] No.44545297[source]▶
I switched to Firefox and it's been wonderful. I wonder why I didn't switch earlier. It's only been a couple of months, but I can't imagine going back to a browser without multi-account containers.
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galangalalgol ◴[12 Jul 25 21:37 UTC] No.44545401[source]▶
The only time I've used anything but firefox for the last. Well probably since netscape honestly? I am so old. Is to get the in flight entertainment to work on american, but firefox has worked for that for a few years now. People say chrome is faster and in the early 2000s I might have agreed, but now I really don't understand why anyone not on a mac or iphone isn't using Firefox. It is great.
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1. nfriedly ◴[12 Jul 25 21:59 UTC] No.44545553[source]▶
Firefox is great on Mac too.

You have a point about iPhones, though. It's almost pointless, but not quite: it does get a few features, like cross-platform sync. "Real" Firefox is one of the things that keeps me on Android.

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2. galangalalgol ◴[12 Jul 25 22:04 UTC] No.44545589[source]▶
Can you still get real Firefox on mac? I thought they forced chromium on there now too? The only time I got MacBook I put linux on it within a few months.
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3. tmnvix ◴[12 Jul 25 22:14 UTC] No.44545648[source]▶
> Can you still get real Firefox on mac?

I have always been able to.

4. MangoToupe ◴[12 Jul 25 22:37 UTC] No.44545782[source]▶
You can use whatever you want on macos
5. pdpi ◴[12 Jul 25 22:41 UTC] No.44545814[source]▶
I assume that, by Chromium, you mean WebKit. At any rate, how or why would they have blocked Firefox on a machine where you can compile your own code?
6. SllX ◴[12 Jul 25 22:46 UTC] No.44545846[source]▶
So a couple of things.

1) Apple would never force "Chromium" on any of their platforms. You might be mistaking it for WebKit, but browsers are not required to use Apple's shipping version of WebKit on a Mac either.

2) Firefox on every single platform not on the iPhone & iPad uses and has always used Gecko. I'm not aware of any other exceptions besides those two platforms, but the Mac definitely isn't one of them.

7. nicoburns ◴[12 Jul 25 22:57 UTC] No.44545918[source]▶
macOS isn't locked down like iOS. There are things like SIP which prevent some hacking/customising of the system, but:

1. These can all be disabled by advanced users (largely without consequence)

2. They dont prevent things like installing apps or even gaining root access in the first place.

The very fact that you can install Linux is evidence of the different approach taken with macs (you can't easily install Linux of ios devices)

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8. galangalalgol ◴[12 Jul 25 23:52 UTC] No.44546251{3}[source]▶
The last macbook I owned had an Ethernet port, so I wasn't sure how much had changed in the interim. I knew that had added some lockdown and I wasn't sure how much. That seems like a reasonable compromise.
9. technofiend ◴[13 Jul 25 00:32 UTC] No.44546438[source]▶
I recently discovered that my jetkvm won't work on chrome, firefox or safari in macos, even after trying various workarounds to enable webrtc. The fix was to boot up Fedora in parallels and use Firefox there. In fact I'm thinking about shifting all my browsing to that combination just for further isolation.
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10. nfriedly ◴[13 Jul 25 00:33 UTC] No.44546444[source]▶
Yep, you can run Firefox on every Mac released for the past couple of decades. (Maybe more?)

Most of them also work with Linux, although it's a little more spotty on the more recent ARM-based ones ("apple silicon").

Macs are essentially "real computers" that you can run whatever software you want on, whereas iPhones and iPads are much more locked down. (Even when they have the same CPU.)

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11. Melatonic ◴[13 Jul 25 00:43 UTC] No.44546493[source]▶
Orion browser using Firefox plugins I have found to work quite well on iOS
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12. pkaeding ◴[13 Jul 25 02:05 UTC] No.44546895[source]▶
I tried to use Orion as my daily driver on Mac OS (instead of Firefox) but I couldn't get the simplelogin extension to work (it wouldn't authenticate to my account). Also, it was slower than FF (I know, everything says that it is super fast, but that wasn't my experience).

After a month or so, I gave up and switched back to FF.

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13. Sunspark ◴[13 Jul 25 04:26 UTC] No.44547500{3}[source]▶
Yes, and the different browsers on iOS are all actually just skins on top of Safari's WebKit.
14. omnimus ◴[13 Jul 25 08:49 UTC] No.44548665[source]▶
I am pretty sure jetkvm works on macos browsers. We have two in office where most people have macs.
15. Melatonic ◴[15 Jul 25 16:45 UTC] No.44573140{3}[source]▶
Yeah on macOS itself I would stick to Firefox. iOS still bans any other browser engine though so Orion is my go to