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al_borland ◴[] No.44544145[source]
All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID?

If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and websites shouldn’t want to shoulder the responsibility for it.

It seems like this could work much like Apple Pay, just without the payment. A prompt comes up, I use some biometric authentication on my phone, and it sends a signal to the browser that I’m 18+. Apple has been adding state IDs into the Wallet, this seems like it could fall right in line. The same thing could be used for buying alcohol at U-Scan checkout.

People should also be able to set their browser/computer to auto-send this for single-user devices, where it is all transparent to the user. I don’t have kids and no one else’s uses my devices. Why should I need to jump through hoops?

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gxs ◴[] No.44544209[source]
There was a thread on reddit asking the other day what about the modern world bothers you the most

I actually considered this question and after thinking about it, despite everything going on, I think it boils down to lack of privacy as my biggest gripe in the modern world

It’s such a tough concept to explain to the if you don’t have anything to hide crowd, but if someone wants to disappear, I don’t care if for good or bad reasons, they should be able to

If you don’t want the government on you, if you don’t want people you know to find you, if you just want to reinvent yourself, it doesn’t matter why - you should be able to do this. It just “feels” like an innate right. Normally I don’t like to argue using “vibes” as justification, but this to me is just part of my value system/morals which is inherently arbitrary to begin with

Encroaching on this privacy encroaches on a bunch of other rights, like free speech as you’ve mentioned

The fact that this is the case makes it even clearer to me that privacy is a basic fundamental primitive

Would love to hear alternative perspectives and other justifications for or against privacy

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olddustytrail ◴[] No.44544278[source]
That's literally what EU privacy laws are about and guess what...

Anti government folk from the USA hated them and decided they were government overreach.

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base698 ◴[] No.44544374{3}[source]
Ah yes, lock you up for Facebook posts UK is the bastion of privacy.
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olddustytrail ◴[] No.44544425{4}[source]
Firstly, the UK is not in the EU. That's what Brexit was.

Secondly, incitement to violence is illegal in most countries. If you think it's not in yours, why not try it and see where you end up?

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1. latency-guy2 ◴[] No.44545003{5}[source]
> Secondly, incitement to violence is illegal in most countries. If you think it's not in yours, why not try it and see where you end up?

By all means, if that's the way you want to represent the issue, then there is no discussion to be had.

I will, however, represent it this way:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_Kingd...

I can be compelled in a few situations in this incomplete list were of the "deserved" type. But you can't convince me on all of them.