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1036 points deryilz | 44 comments | | HN request time: 2.241s | source | bottom
1. pnw ◴[] No.44544999[source]
Haven't missed Chrome once since switching to https://brave.com/
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2. Etheryte ◴[] No.44545222[source]
Of all the browsers you could be using, giving your data away to sketchy crypto bros should really not be at the top of the list.
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3. Supermancho ◴[] No.44545223[source]
Not being able to run Twitch on it has me switch for brief periods.
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4. Supermancho ◴[] No.44545243[source]
It's the top of the list because it works so well. I forget it's a different browser most of the time. I was able to turn off everything extraneous that I was concerned about. Brave is also Open Sourced.
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5. bung ◴[] No.44545274[source]
Might as well edit and add some suggestions
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6. bung ◴[] No.44545276[source]
You're personally unable to look at twitch on it?
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7. Supermancho ◴[] No.44545313{3}[source]
The adblock causes a twitch stream error. I can watch until the first ad. This is annoying, so I switch to vanilla chrome.
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8. heraldgeezer ◴[] No.44545344{4}[source]
You can turn off the adblock per site.

Do you even try to use software you are using? Click shield icon and turn off...

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9. rollcat ◴[] No.44545345[source]
It's the same Blink engine underneath. Talk about lipstick.

I'm not aware of a Blink-based browser that isn't dropping manifest V2. That would be a soft fork, and wouldn't survive long.

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10. CharlesW ◴[] No.44545359[source]
In the "cons" column, Brave is still a for-profit and has a bunch of features that continue to give some people the ick. In the "pros" column, there's a bunch of "how to debloat Brave" content showing how to improve the default kitchen-sink confifguration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6cKFliWW6Q
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11. CharlesW ◴[] No.44545383[source]
https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
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12. Supermancho ◴[] No.44545386{5}[source]
> Do you even try to use software you are using?

GL with whatever.

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14. sundarurfriend ◴[] No.44545390[source]
Heh, funny, Twitch was the primary reason I installed Brave because it was being glitchy on Firefox (at the time years ago - no longer the case). I've never had trouble with Twitch on Brave.
15. deryilz ◴[] No.44545693[source]
From my experience (as a Brave user), using a User-Agent switching extension and setting it to Firefox for twitch.tv gets around that :)
16. bigstrat2003 ◴[] No.44545726[source]
The point is you don't need to worry about manifest v3 interfering with ad blockers, because Brave has an ad blocker built into the browser. Also makes it a good Chromium-based option for mobile, since you can't install extensions on Chrome mobile at all.
17. bigstrat2003 ◴[] No.44545738[source]
I really don't care about crypto stuff. If you do, I can understand why that's a dealbreaker for you. But for me, it doesn't matter at all. I just turn the crypto features off and continue on my way.
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18. nh43215rgb ◴[] No.44545999[source]
https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/
19. pnw ◴[] No.44546078[source]
I do turn off the wallet, VPN, AI and other bloat, but it's a minor inconvenience for a better browser.
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20. swat535 ◴[] No.44546161[source]
Brave runs of Chromium, it's the same thing as Chrome.. Manifest V3 will eventually be implemented.
21. travoc ◴[] No.44546400[source]
Really? I turned off the crypto buttons once several years ago and it’s been just fine since.
22. triyambakam ◴[] No.44546432[source]
Shields can be turned off right from the url bar as needed.
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23. rustcleaner ◴[] No.44546809[source]
>Brendan Eich's hateful hands

LOL California Proposition 8 was pretty mainstream opinion back then. Maybe stop with the ex post facto persecution?

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24. homebrewer ◴[] No.44546815{3}[source]
Maybe take a look at Vivaldi, it's a continuation of the old Opera, with basically the same development team. It's the most user-friendly and configurable option at this moment, they're very responsive to feedback, and are the only organization that doesn't have some horrible privacy violations in the past (maybe excluding Apple, I don't know and don't care, 90% of users on this planet can't run Safari).

Also they are in Norway if you care about that sort of thing.

It's not FOSS, though, at least for now.

25. acdha ◴[] No.44546830{3}[source]
Hate can be popular but that still doesn’t make it right. He knew that he was spending money hoping to take away rights from people he knew, to tell some of them that their marriages shouldn’t be allowed, and did it anyway. That’s hateful regardless of how many other people joined him.
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26. djrj477dhsnv ◴[] No.44547203{4}[source]
By that definition, all politics is "hate". Passing a law will always take away the rights of a group in some way or other, and politics is the debate of whether or not that's a good or bad thing.

Personally I'm 100% for letting everyone express their gender or sexual identities. But I'm not going to demonize someone for having a different opinion and making a small donation to support their political views.

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27. sneak ◴[] No.44547439{5}[source]
Perhaps you should. Some opinions and political views (such as those against human rights) are abhorrent.

Deciding that you will turn your head the other way and ignore those who act against human rights speaks to your character.

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28. pertymcpert ◴[] No.44547492{5}[source]
Just say what you really think.
29. eviks ◴[] No.44547569{3}[source]
> When Google removes MV2 extensions from Chrome Web Store, they will be disabled for Brave users as well, except for these 4 supported extensions.

Oh, thanks, welcome news! Wish Vivaldi did the same

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31. 0dayz ◴[] No.44548299{5}[source]
Not what defines politics what do ever, politics by definition is the practice of trying to figure out ways to solve power and philosophical disagreement.

>Personally I'm 100% for letting everyone express their gender or sexual identities. But I'm not going to demonize someone for having a different opinion and making a small donation to support their political views.

You would never ever say this if it was about a person/movement that personally affects you or your way of life.

32. pxoe ◴[] No.44549680{3}[source]
That's an absurd amount of tuning to make a browser acceptable to use. What you're saying is that it's unusable as is out of the box.
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33. esskay ◴[] No.44551137{4}[source]
It takes less than a minute, one time. "tuning" really isn't the word here, it's literally flicking a couple of toggles and you're done.
34. esskay ◴[] No.44551144[source]
The crypto part is an optional thing, which takes a split second to turn off - thats it. Once its off you are basically running chrome without the google call home, and with a built in adblocker unaffected by manifest v3.

It's also opensource so it's not like theres anything being hidden here.

35. acdha ◴[] No.44552269{5}[source]
Not all politics is defined by hate, so your logic is clearly incorrect unless you’re redefining that word so broadly as to render it meaningless.

In this case, there’s a simple litmus test: is it taking away rights or adding them? It’s very hard to believe your last sentence would be true if the people whose rights were being taken away included you or people you care about, and in the case of things like LGBTQ rights there really isn’t a better argument than thinking someone else shouldn’t have the same rights you have. That’s a hateful motivation no matter how much failed Christians like to claim they “love the sinner” but it’s also a relatively unusual political debate in the way that the cost or harm is entirely one-sided. Most other hot topics have at least some possibility for a principled objection based on something other than bigotry (e.g. some people oppose immigration policy changes because they’re racist but for others it’s purely economic based on downward wage pressure).

36. burnte ◴[] No.44553306{3}[source]
Yeah, if I want to turn it off manually for literally every site. I don't find that helpful.
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37. burnte ◴[] No.44553319{3}[source]
I have a closer knowledge that you think, having been inside Mozilla for a long time. He's not a bad human, but he's blinded by religion. Separately, slavery was mainstream, it was still hateful and wrong. Prop 8 was pure hate propaganda.
38. burnte ◴[] No.44553331{5}[source]
> By that definition, all politics is "hate". Passing a law will always take away the rights of a group in some way or other, and politics is the debate of whether or not that's a good or bad thing.

Most politics isn't targeted at taking away rights from people, so most politics is not hateful.

Please don't haul over a straw man like "what about murderers and pedophiles, don't they get rights?" No, no one gets rights to hurt other people.

> But I'm not going to demonize someone for having a different opinion and making a small donation to support their political views.

I'm not demonizing him, I'm refusing to do do business with him while he thinks it's ok to fund organizations and policies that hurt people and take away rights. Maybe you should too, lest someone start to take away YOUR rights, but maybe just do it because it's not right to take away anyone's rights.

39. triyambakam ◴[] No.44556182{4}[source]
Why would you want them off for every site? That's one of the main benefits to using Brave
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40. rollcat ◴[] No.44559778{3}[source]
I'm eager to find out how long that will survive. (No sarcasm, just being realistic.)
41. burnte ◴[] No.44562628{5}[source]
Because I prefer another tool for that. That's why I'm complaining I can't REALLY turn it off.
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42. pnw ◴[] No.44563421{4}[source]
It's literally a handful of options on the settings page.
43. asadotzler ◴[] No.44565369{3}[source]
It's not about the feature. It's about the people who built the feature. "Sure they sold a car that blows up at 75 mph, but I never drive over 60 so I trust them."
44. triyambakam ◴[] No.44579259{6}[source]
But then why use Brave...?