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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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693 points macawfish | 2 comments | 12 Jul 25 18:14 UTC | HN request time: 0.565s | source
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al_borland ◴[12 Jul 25 18:53 UTC] No.44544145[source]▶
All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID?

If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and websites shouldn’t want to shoulder the responsibility for it.

It seems like this could work much like Apple Pay, just without the payment. A prompt comes up, I use some biometric authentication on my phone, and it sends a signal to the browser that I’m 18+. Apple has been adding state IDs into the Wallet, this seems like it could fall right in line. The same thing could be used for buying alcohol at U-Scan checkout.

People should also be able to set their browser/computer to auto-send this for single-user devices, where it is all transparent to the user. I don’t have kids and no one else’s uses my devices. Why should I need to jump through hoops?

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Sharlin[dead post] ◴[12 Jul 25 19:21 UTC] No.44544375[source]▶
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antonymoose ◴[12 Jul 25 19:26 UTC] No.44544434[source]▶
I expect a liquor store to check ID, why not a porn store?
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Ylpertnodi ◴[12 Jul 25 19:50 UTC] No.44544612[source]▶
Do booze shops in the US store peoples id's after they've flashed them (pun intended)?
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reliabilityguy ◴[12 Jul 25 20:14 UTC] No.44544776[source]▶
It seems to me that age verification via ID submission online and the subsequent storage of IDs are separate issues.
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1. toast0 ◴[12 Jul 25 20:20 UTC] No.44544825[source]▶
How could they be separate issues when the submission of an ID image obviously enables both the subsequent storage of the ID and also the presentment of the ID to others.

We know that very few organizations are capable of effectively controlling confidential information that they're legally bound to keep confidential. Requiring things that are going to lead to large stores of ID images is asking for trouble.

When you show your ID in a store, the clerk generally doesn't retain a copy of it, and if they do, it's apparent because they take the card to scan it... regardless, they can't take the scanned copy and present it at another store, because the other store will detect that it's not an original.

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2. reliabilityguy ◴[12 Jul 25 22:49 UTC] No.44545872[source]▶
Because they are. You do not have to store the ID for verification: storage it’s just one way to implement such a system.

I agree with you that systems that store those IDs are ticking bombs.