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smallmancontrov ◴[] No.44544139[source]
"Party of free speech," my ass.
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ttul ◴[] No.44544233[source]
The GOP under Trump has considerably changed from the GOP under Bush. There is no longer a political home for Reagan/Bush-style conservatives. Perhaps a shift might be coming with the next economic downturn, which seems inevitable given the risk-off investment climate across most industries stemming from Trump’s erratic, unpredictable trade and economic policy. Things don’t look bad just yet, but it takes a while for the full impact of such enormous changes in sentiment to ripple down through the entire economy.
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TimorousBestie ◴[] No.44544430[source]
> There is no longer a political home for Reagan/Bush-style conservatives.

There is, they just don’t like it for aesthetic and/or historical reasons.

The faction that currently runs the Democratic party is the centrist, deficit-reducing, foreign-intervention-when-necessary party of Reagan/Bush.

If the centrists and moderate conservatives could make common cause, they would easily shut out both the far left and far right wings of American politics. The demographics are there.

I think the main wedge preventing this unification is still abortion, and to a lesser extent LGBTQ rights. But it’s so weird to see two political factions that agree on 90% of policy get shellacked and overruled by their respective extreme wings. Real tail wagging the dog stuff.

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1. tyre ◴[] No.44544728[source]
> it’s so weird to see two political factions that agree on 90% of policy get shellacked and overruled by their respective extreme wings

These parties have primaries and Republicans are choosing—by a majority—the crazies over the “traditional” wing. They aren’t extremists. They are the party views.

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2. SoftTalker ◴[] No.44544931[source]
Most moderates don’t vote in the primaries. The hardcore extremists vote unfailingly.
3. donatj ◴[] No.44544958[source]
Primaries are primarily voted in by crazies. Regular people have lives and jobs.
4. TimorousBestie ◴[] No.44545052[source]
> These parties have primaries and Republicans are choosing—by a majority—the crazies over the “traditional” wing.

Elections are by and large not contests of policy, and I think it’s likely that most American voters (across the spectrum, not just the GOP) aren’t voting in their own self-interest anymore.