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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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693 points macawfish | 9 comments | 12 Jul 25 18:14 UTC | HN request time: 0.652s | source | bottom
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everdrive ◴[12 Jul 25 19:06 UTC] No.44544268[source]▶
Others have said this, I'm sure, but this will move past porn _quickly_. Once there is agreed-up age verification for pornography, much of the professional internet will require identity verification to do _anything_. This is one of the bigger nails in the coffin for the free internet, and this true whether or not you're happy with all the pornography out there.
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nikanj ◴[12 Jul 25 19:20 UTC] No.44544369[source]▶
And honestly, with the advent of AI spam everywhere, I'd be quite happy to visit a version of the internet where everyone is a certified real person
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1. baq ◴[12 Jul 25 19:37 UTC] No.44544510[source]▶
No idea why you’re getting downvoted when there’s a slow but unstoppable migration of everything into discord or other walled, somewhat LLM-proof gardens.
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2. tines ◴[12 Jul 25 20:00 UTC] No.44544682[source]▶
Walled gardens are only LLM-proof until some AI company makes an offer for the data.
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3. nikanj ◴[12 Jul 25 20:40 UTC] No.44544988[source]▶
I don’t care about that. I care about the number of DMs I get from ”superhorni420” offering me her nudes

I don’t really see a future where Discord would let an AI company post the kind of 24/7 porn+crypto+scams you get in your email spam folder

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4. Aerroon ◴[12 Jul 25 22:11 UTC] No.44545633{3}[source]▶
But that's already been happening in discord for years.
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5. layer8 ◴[12 Jul 25 22:37 UTC] No.44545774{4}[source]▶
The parent’s point is that identity verification would stop that.
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6. stogot ◴[12 Jul 25 23:44 UTC] No.44546200{3}[source]▶
WhatsApp does this. I get added to scam channels
7. johnnyanmac ◴[13 Jul 25 05:57 UTC] No.44547857[source]▶
It was a very tonedeaf take, that's why. Most of the internet is concentrated in the top 100 websites, and 80% of them would not be affected by this law. So you'll still see plenty of bots on Youtube, Discord, Reddit, news sites, and so on.

Blogs with a few comments would go from 5 real commenters to 0 or 1. This does not get the desired result.

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secondly, I assure you there's plenty of classic spam on servers that don't have good moderation. pre-AI spam never disappeared.

8. johnnyanmac ◴[13 Jul 25 05:58 UTC] No.44547864{5}[source]▶
Where in this statement did people conclude that all websites require identification? Even if they did, you know the technocrats would just pay a few million to have the government look the other way. I don't see the upside here.
9. johnnyanmac ◴[13 Jul 25 06:00 UTC] No.44547876{3}[source]▶
>I don’t really see a future where Discord would let an AI company post the kind of 24/7 porn+crypto+scams you get in your email spam folder

Discord just changed management and new managment immediately said they are interested in IPO'ing. If trends emerge, it will indeed get overriden by bots like Reddit did around the time it was preparing to IPO. I see it as an inevitability at this point.