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perihelions ◴[] No.44544210[source]
There was a NYT article a couple weeks ago about Chinese morality police doing mass arrests of erotica authors,

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/28/world/asia/china-boys-lov... ("Chinese Police Detain Dozens of Writers Over Gay Erotic Online Novels") [note article contains large images of erotica novel covers]

But you'd *expect* that of the PRC; the US, wow, has it ever fallen fast and fallen hard.

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1. _Algernon_ ◴[] No.44544296[source]
Why is it everyone else's responsibility to keep it out of the hands of 10 year olds by being 24/7 surveilled by the government, instead of the parents' responsibility to regulate internet access for their 10-year old?

Not that gay erotica seems that harmful, even for a 10 year old. They probably don't seek it out as much as you thing they do. If they do, it is probably a beneficial step in their development given what they learn about themselves in a safer environment than the probable alternative.

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2. dyauspitr ◴[] No.44544819[source]
Because just like the argument with social media in my opinion it’s better to have governmental regulation on these things so millions of households don’t have to have the same argument with their kids and kids not on social media platforms don’t get left out of a significant percentage of teenage life effectively socially stunting them.
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3. kelnos ◴[] No.44544949[source]
Millions of households talking about this stuff with their kids, setting rule and boundaries and punishments, is exactly what should happen. That is literally what parenting is, and every parent must do it. Pushing that responsibility to the state is not only lazy, it's anathema to a free society. Your children will grow up to be robots who only know how to do what an authority figure tells them to do.
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4. dyauspitr ◴[] No.44545549{3}[source]
In my opinion it shouldn’t. If 75% of kids are using social media it’s very hard to make the argument that your kid shouldn’t have a smartphone since your kid will argue that you are making them a social pariah (and rightfully so).

As a society we collectively tell kids they can’t have destructive, addictive substances until they’re a certain age and I believe social media and smartphones belong in that category.

5. Nasrudith ◴[] No.44545942[source]
No, it is not better for children to grow up in a fucking Orwellian dystopia just because you have hang-ups about sex.
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6. heavyset_go ◴[] No.44546031[source]
We have to implement a stronger surveillance state because... you don't like the idea of other people's kids using the internet?
7. tomhow ◴[] No.44546594[source]
> I pray that you will find God and recover from whatever trauma you have been through.

This is not an acceptable comment on HN, as it's a disguised personal attack. Please read the guidelines and make an effort to observe them in future.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

8. tomhow ◴[] No.44546601{3}[source]
> Fucking troll.

That comment was unacceptable and I replied to them to say so, but it's also not OK to comment like this on HN, no matter what you're replying to. If we want others to be better we need to be better ourselves.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

9. dyauspitr ◴[] No.44547235{3}[source]
I’m less concerned about porn/sex and more concerned about smartphone and social media usage.
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10. ninjin ◴[] No.44548115{4}[source]
But why fall back on the state to police every website and service? Not to mention that the Internet is wider than any jurisdiction you can hope to achieve.

Plenty of devices have parental controls and it is your duty as a parent to look into this and understand the consequences when you hand a device to your child that allows them to consume a global diet of media and connects them to a majority of the global populous. It is not unreasonable to expect device/software manufacturers to provide the power to parents to do this and we already have had the free market provide options for this for decades.

To me, it is not any different than to expect a parent to consider the potential consequences of children playing in the streets, etc. and take action. Thus, to me, the people pushing this kind of legislation are either sloppy thinkers or dishonest in what aims they hope to achieve.

11. TrnsltLife ◴[] No.44548276[source]
Because it takes a village. Because I am my brother's keeper. Because as a society we have a responsibility to help and protect one another.
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12. LexiMax ◴[] No.44552530[source]
The thought of being complicit in a society that guards abused children of fundamentalist christians against apostasy and thoughtcrime fills me with despair and dread.

If that's the society we are heading towards, count me out. I shall sit on my hands to the best of my ability.