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extr ◴[] No.44537358[source]
IMO other than the Microsoft IP issue, I think the biggest thing that has shifted since this acquisition was first in the works is Claude Code has absolutely exploded. Forking an IDE and all the expense that comes with that feels like a waste of effort, considering the number of free/open source CLI agentic tools that are out there.

Let's review the current state of things:

- Terminal CLI agents are several orders of magnitude less $$$ to develop than forking an entire IDE.

- CC is dead simple to onboard (use whatever IDE you're using now, with a simple extension for some UX improvements).

- Anthropic is free to aggressively undercut their own API margins (and middlemen like Cursor) in exchange for more predictable subscription revenue + training data access.

What does Cursor/Windsurf offer over VS Code + CC?

- Tab completion model (Cursor's remaining moat)

- Some UI niceties like "add selection to chat", and etc.

Personally I think this is a harbinger of where things are going. Cursor was fastest to $900M ARR and IMO will be fastest back down again.

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xnx ◴[] No.44537964[source]
Is the case for using Claude Code much weaker now that Gemini CLI is out?
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apwell23 ◴[] No.44538038[source]
no. CC is not just a cli. Its cli + their pro/max plan.

gemini cli is very expensive.

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1. mark_l_watson ◴[] No.44542079[source]
Wait a minute, have you often run out of the gemini cli free daily quota? Their free quota is very generous because they are trying to get market/mind share.
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2. apwell23 ◴[] No.44542147[source]
it switches to flash almost immediately like in 10-15 mins . flash sucks.

And even switching is not smooth either. for me when the switch happens it just get stuck sitting there so i have to restart cli.