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decimalenough ◴[] No.44536914[source]
> The aircraft achieved the maximum recorded airspeed of 180 Knots IAS at about 08:08:42 UTC and immediately thereafter, the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec. The Engine N1 and N2 began to decrease from their take-off values as the fuel supply to the engines was cut off.

So the fuel supply was cut off intentionally. The switches in question are also built so they cannot be triggered accidentally, they need to be unlocked first by pulling them out.

> In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so.

And both pilots deny doing it.

It's difficult to conclude anything other than murder-suicide.

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YetAnotherNick ◴[] No.44538840[source]
Reminds me of 2017 Las Vegas shooting. The perpetrator looked and acted completely normal till the day of shooting and all his issues like anxiety or losing money was nothing far from ordinary. And what seems all of a sudden did a well planned shooting and didn't bother to leave a note or tell his story.
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refulgentis ◴[] No.44538890[source]
Free memento mori: you're both free-associating.

There's 0 reason to conclude murder-suicide, there's an infinitude of things that could have the same result, and both pilots denied it to eachother: how is that presented as proof?

I hope I don't need to explain why the fact no one knew in advance the Las Vegas shooter was going to shoot has ~0 similarities with the situation as we know it, and banal similarities with every murder.

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Aeolun ◴[] No.44540135[source]
Using that reasoning all airplane crashes have a lot in common too.

Doesn’t mean the ones where you cannot determine the reason and have to speculate don’t suck.

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1. refulgentis ◴[] No.44541471[source]
Could you explain more? There's too many negatives in that last sentence for my decaffeinated early morning brain. I'm titillated by the idea there's a way to justify making up things so I really want to parse it.
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2. Aeolun ◴[] No.44541660[source]
It means, sometimes the best you will get is speculation, because there’s no definite answers to be had.

E.g. it’d be nice if just hearing the CVR meant you knew the exact cause. Unfortunately not the case here.