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Preliminary report into Air India crash released

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339 points cjr | 1 comments | 11 Jul 25 20:23 UTC | HN request time: 0.252s | source
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decimalenough ◴[11 Jul 25 21:24 UTC] No.44536914[source]▶
> The aircraft achieved the maximum recorded airspeed of 180 Knots IAS at about 08:08:42 UTC and immediately thereafter, the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec. The Engine N1 and N2 began to decrease from their take-off values as the fuel supply to the engines was cut off.

So the fuel supply was cut off intentionally. The switches in question are also built so they cannot be triggered accidentally, they need to be unlocked first by pulling them out.

> In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so.

And both pilots deny doing it.

It's difficult to conclude anything other than murder-suicide.

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prepend ◴[12 Jul 25 02:24 UTC] No.44538779[source]▶
I once worked with a software engineer who would do things and then bald face lie about it. This reminds me of that person.

Me: “The build is breaking right after you checked in. Why did you do that?” Him:”I did not do so.” Me: “The commit shows it as you. And when I rolled back everything builds.” Him:”It must have been someone else.”

That person was really annoying.

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Aurornis ◴[12 Jul 25 05:59 UTC] No.44539695[source]▶
I’ve worked with some chronic liars. They would deny reality no matter how much evidence you had.

The weirdest thing was how often it worked for them. In each case their lying eventually caught up with them, but in some cases they’d get away with lying for years.

It’s amazing how often someone would have clear evidence against what they were saying, but the people in positions of authority just wanted to de-escalate the situation and move on. They could turn anything into an ambiguous he-said she-said situation, possibly make a scene, and then make everyone so tired of the drama that they just wanted to move on.

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1. ionwake ◴[12 Jul 25 10:50 UTC] No.44541060[source]▶
i worked in many companies but I always remember one , where during a public chat in the middle of an open office the programmer next to me (who was always conniving but I just ignored it ), said incorrectly something akin to " yes I know all about that source control its... based on locking " , the whole point was that although locking technically occurs, the SC would allow different coders to work on it at the same time. The non technical manager said correctly, "no the whole point is that the codebase isnt locked", to which the programmer replied " yeah thats what I mean".

In that moment I realised he was just bare faced lying right infront of everyone, about a technical subject, only HE should be the expert in, and to this day I am perplexed why his contract kept being renewed.

Eventually I was let go ( he possibly suggested I be let go ) for an incident that was unrelated to me.

This is all fine, but i learnt 5 years on he was still being paid a top 1% salary at the same company.

I promise the point isnt that I am jealous, its that this guy, who was a sub par coder and liar, somehow managed to keep his job whilst everyone else lost theirs and earnt untold amount in England ( where salaries are always low).

My goodness - I just remembered he was found by police driving a vehicle seemingly under the influence on a motorway, work found out after the police called them, and somehow he turned up the next day at work , lied about it, and STILL kept his job.

I am only mentioning this guy , because he was NOT a nepotist hire, he was just some guy who would lie and somehow people were ok with it. I still think of him often and wish I could have learnt more from his abilities just out of interest.