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mystraline ◴[] No.44538610[source]
To be completely and utterly fair, I trust Deepseek and Qwen (Alibaba) more than American AI companies.

American AI companies have shown they are money and compute eaters, and massively so at that. Billions later, and well, not much to show.

But Deepseek cost $5M to develop, and made multiple novel ways to train.

Oh, and their models and code are all FLOSS. The US companies are closed. Basically, the US ai companies are too busy treating each other as vultures.

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Aunche ◴[] No.44538700[source]
$5 million was the gpu hour cost of a single training run.
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1. dumbmrblah ◴[] No.44539046[source]
Exactly. Not to minimize Deepseeks tremendous achievement, but that $5 million was just for the training run, not the GPUs used they purchased before, and all the OpenAI API calls they likely used to assist in synthetic data generation.