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mystraline ◴[] No.44538610[source]
To be completely and utterly fair, I trust Deepseek and Qwen (Alibaba) more than American AI companies.

American AI companies have shown they are money and compute eaters, and massively so at that. Billions later, and well, not much to show.

But Deepseek cost $5M to develop, and made multiple novel ways to train.

Oh, and their models and code are all FLOSS. The US companies are closed. Basically, the US ai companies are too busy treating each other as vultures.

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IncreasePosts ◴[] No.44538816[source]
Deepseek R1 was trained at least partially on the output of other LLMs. So, it might have been much more expensive if they needed to do it themselves from scratch.
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1. nomel ◴[] No.44538913[source]
Lawsuit, since it was against OpenAI TOS: https://hls.harvard.edu/today/deepseek-chatgpt-and-the-globa...