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Preliminary report into Air India crash released

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308 points cjr | 3 comments | 11 Jul 25 20:23 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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decimalenough ◴[11 Jul 25 21:24 UTC] No.44536914[source]▶
> The aircraft achieved the maximum recorded airspeed of 180 Knots IAS at about 08:08:42 UTC and immediately thereafter, the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec. The Engine N1 and N2 began to decrease from their take-off values as the fuel supply to the engines was cut off.

So the fuel supply was cut off intentionally. The switches in question are also built so they cannot be triggered accidentally, they need to be unlocked first by pulling them out.

> In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so.

And both pilots deny doing it.

It's difficult to conclude anything other than murder-suicide.

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dcreater ◴[11 Jul 25 22:42 UTC] No.44537520[source]▶
Do you know if the mechanical position of the switch guarantees its electronic state without any possibility for hardware malfunction? If no, then you are claiming a person made one of the most grave acts of inhumanity ever.

This sounds to me like an electronics issue - an intermittent, inadvertent state transition likely due to some PCB component malfunction

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1. K0balt ◴[11 Jul 25 23:20 UTC] No.44537803[source]▶
The time between the two switches being activated and then them being switched back on after being noticed strongly suggests that they were actually manipulated. Malice looke very likely to me. An investigation into the pilots life may turn something up, I guess.

It’s worth noting that Premeditation or “intention” doesn’t have to factor into this.

Studies of survivors of impulse suicides (jumping off of bridges etc) indicate that many of them report having no previous suicidal ideation, no intention or plan to commit suicide, and in many cases no reported depression or difficulties that might encourage suicide.

Dark impulses exist and they don’t always get caught in time by the supervisory conscious process. Most people have experienced this in its more innocuous forms, the call of the void and whatnot, but many have also been witness to thoughtless destructive acts that defy reason and leave the perpetrator confused and in denial.

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2. dcreater ◴[12 Jul 25 01:25 UTC] No.44538497[source]▶
> The time between the two switches being activated and then them being switched back on after being noticed strongly suggests that they were actually manipulated

How so? It is just as likely to be an intermitted electronic malfunction.

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3. pixl97 ◴[12 Jul 25 01:41 UTC] No.44538582[source]▶
For both switches on seperate systems and wires that are independant.

I mean, it's not impossible, but it sure the hell is improbable.