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OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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737 points rcchen | 1 comments | 11 Jul 25 21:35 UTC | HN request time: 0.206s | source
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dalemhurley ◴[11 Jul 25 22:24 UTC] No.44537376[source]▶
Cursor (and Garry Tan’s X post) has shown us that the VC money is propping up these companies astounding growth, the only way for them to become profitable is to increase the cost per a request, which means they need to innovate like crazy.

The moat is paper thin.

GitHub has open sourced copilot.

The open source community is working hard on their own projects.

No doubt Cursor is moving fast to create amazing innovations, but if the competition only focuses on thin wrappers they are not worth the billion dollar valuations.

I love watching this space as it is moving extremely fast.

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1. tootie ◴[11 Jul 25 23:03 UTC] No.44537680[source]▶
I think the recent Grok release and considering xAI was relatively late to the game shows that the only moat to training giant models is how many GPUs you can buy. ChatGPT was earth-shattering and it took less than two years for multiple credible competitors to match or exceed them. Making these models profitable is proving extremely difficult in the face of so much competition and such unsustainable expectations being set. Google seems to be most likely to sustain themselves through this melee. Them and the Chinese companies.