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OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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766 points rcchen | 4 comments | 11 Jul 25 21:35 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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bhl ◴[11 Jul 25 22:15 UTC] No.44537297[source]▶
I don't know anyone who heard or used Windsurf outside the Bay Area. Even Cursor feels very Bay Area bubbly (although that is the market to go after if you're in ai dev tools).
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1. jongjong ◴[11 Jul 25 22:32 UTC] No.44537446[source]▶
Cursor does add value but it's just a thin layer on top of VSCode so companies could just build that in-house and don't need to acquire. There's no moat there.
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2. bhl ◴[11 Jul 25 23:08 UTC] No.44537717[source]▶
Cursor has custom tab and embedding models. And has a lot of distribution / paying users already.

Arguably they have the strongest product moat, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they beat OpenAI in a vertical coding model from that. Easy for them to have users generate evals and have model product feedback loop here.

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3. bn-l ◴[12 Jul 25 02:25 UTC] No.44538782[source]▶
The tab completion is fast and the best available right now but is still so garbage that I turn it off 99% of the time because the suggestions are mostly noise.
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4. anon7000 ◴[12 Jul 25 03:05 UTC] No.44538955{3}[source]▶
I have the opposite experience, it’s at least 90% correct. For example, if I start writing the name of a function that I just added in a different file, tab will suggest the function, then jump to the top of the file to import it. If I’m changing the way something is called in 5 places, if I change it in the first place, tab will jump to make the same change in the other places. It’s honestly pretty spot on.

Zed tab is a lot worse in comparison (partly because it’s slow)