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624 points xbryanx | 4 comments | | HN request time: 1.968s | source
1. throwawayHpCvfn ◴[] No.44532072[source]
As someone who attempted suicide almost ten years ago, I'm disheartened by how cold-hearted the comments on this article are. Accusations of certain wording being "woke" or "PC" and completely ignoring the substance of the article itself, as if the wording were the tragedy here. If we must have this discussion, I stopped using the phrase "committed suicide" when I found out it was a relic of when it was illegal and stigmatized by the justice system. I prefer "died by suicide", and I appreciate when others use it too. Not in the sense that I will correct people when they say committed (because most people, the ones in this comment section excepted, don't know the origins), but rather "oh hey, that person knows about this, and they care too."
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2. whycome ◴[] No.44532839[source]
I think the discussion is that “driven to suicide” would be a more appropriate term. Their deaths were not coincidental or incidental. It is an attempt to acknowledge that their act was the result of the actions of the post office and others.
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3. throwawayHpCvfn ◴[] No.44533287[source]
A few comments are like that, yes, and I have no objections to that description. Most of the discussion though seems to be more like this:

> I guess some people take comfort in the idea that suicide is thrust on people and they take no responsibility for their actions.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44531844

4. throwawayHpCvfn ◴[] No.44534033[source]
Me: "Hey, I survived a suicide attempt several years ago, and I appreciate it when people who know the negative history behind 'committing suicide' say something else, because it shows that they care."

You (pre-edit): "The problem many of us see with saying 'unalived by suicide' rather than 'committed suicide' is the artificiality of the sentence and the implication that the language we speak has to keep up with the correct newspeak due to the latest euphemistic moral cleansing lest we appear uncouth and uncultured."

My point stands.