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Apple vs the Law

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simonask ◴[] No.44529604[source]
As a European, I have to say I am generally impressed with the EU in these cases. I'm from a country that's rich and capable, but with a GDP a fraction of Apple's market cap. There is no chance that national laws and entities would be sufficient to protect my consumer rights from corporations this size.

The EU is fundamentally a centre-right, liberalist, pro-business coalition, but what that means is that it is pro-competition. What's really impressive is that it seems to mostly refrain from devolving into protectionist policies, giving no preferential treatment to European businesses against international (intercontinental?) competitors, despite strong populist tendencies in certain member states.

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giingyui ◴[] No.44530729[source]
Europe is centre right? That is an interesting claim. I guess someone’s right is someone else’s left.
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xandrius ◴[] No.44530794[source]
Where would you place it? I'm curious because centre-right is quite spot on.
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giingyui ◴[] No.44531072[source]
Socially and economically left wing. Progressive socially and interventionist economically.
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cess11 ◴[] No.44531482[source]
Is this a joke? The EU is the product of large industrialists institutionalising their liberalist, capitalist values as an international bureaucracy.

It hardly cares about unions beyond what the ECHR and ILO treaties demands, i.e. it's obviously not left wing. If it was inherently left wing it wouldn't have the kind of parliament it has, but rather something like Yugoslavia or the DDR did.

It's also not conservative, hence why that movement has had to bolt on militarisation and stuff like Frontex.

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giingyui ◴[] No.44531562[source]
It’s not the eighties anymore. The world has moved on. You have to look at things from the perspective of the present. Forget Yugoslavia.
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1. cess11 ◴[] No.44531930[source]
You would have a hard time understanding the EU today if you knew nothing about Yugoslavia, since the fallout turned into portions of the EU.

If you know of some other institutionally left wing bureaucracy you consider more appropriate to use as an example, name it.