Kite News

Kagi founder here. This is prematurely shared and not ready for prime time yet. Official launch with mobile apps will happen soon. Thanks!

Looks awesome though. I'm already on board with where this is going.

Although it would be great to know if some money goes back to the original sources...

Is it ok to use it, or should I wait until it's officially announced?

(P.S. been paying for Kagi search since January, very happy with it)

I'm very interested in this, I'm a long term kagi subscriber with the free t-shirt!

One thing that would be interesting to explore would be a feed that integrated over a longer timeframe. For example, I subscribe to the guardian weekly, and I like it much more than the daily homepage. News that survives a week tends to be more newsworthy, and there's more scope for the beginnings of retrospective analysis. It would be interesting to be able to play with that timeframe - what does a 3 day window look like, or a 1 month one?

Ah, sorry I spoiled it out. I saw on Reddit and thought it was great (like a lot of other Kagi things).

Keep up the good work!

It's existed for months by now, and has been usable for nearly as long. I'd say you can decide if you need extra fluff like native apps or further "polishing" at this point.

Please, please reconsider this product and take it offline for now. The vast majority of "information" in these stories is complete garbage. You are making up numbers, facts, quotes, and entire narratives. I made a list of examples (from just one single story) in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44520841.

I don't think a service like this is impossible, but it cannot be done with LLMs. They are the worst possible tool for news, all they can do is generate text that looks like legitimate news but is inevitably wrong. Again, please don't do this. Think about the massive amount of lies you will spread if this gains a large user base. I've been a subscriber for years, but I will cancel my subscription in a few days if you don't do anything about this. I can't let you use my money to create this societal catastrophe.

Edit: I see there is a GitHub issue raising the same problems, hopefully you can respond there with what you're doing about this: https://github.com/kagisearch/kite-public/issues/97

Kagi News (formerly Kite) Product Manager here,

You can use the website and even make it a web app if you want. We’ll be releasing a mobile version that will be better suited but will have the same features :)

I've built a similar product (https://www.mosaique.info), but it doesn't rely on LLMs (except for generating a very short summary). I think it offers a wider set of opinions and is much more exhaustive.

Hi

First, it's a great idea! The "introductory" speech is interesting then... the result is really disappointing :-(

You see: I'm French (and European). So, I don't necessarily consider that "Trump" is the center of the "World" (actually quite the opposite). However, on the "World" tab, 50% of the news are about "Trump". I would have thought that the aim of this kind of newsfeed is to challenge Trump tactic's of "newsroom saturation". In particular in that tab (Trump can be the alpha & omega for the USA tab)

Sorry to plug my product again (from the comment above), but mosaique.info offers filters for three days, a week, a month, and a year (among others).

As another European, I second this. I avoid Trump "news" like a plague. This was 50% Trump; 8 out of 10 was US.

What kind of editorial policies will you have about how you frame stories and what kind of words you will use?

I'm a happy subscriber to Tangle News, and its founder has spent a lot of time about about how he wants to bridge ideological divides in a way that echoes "We strive for diversity and transparency of resources and welcome your contributions to widen perspectives." He talks about looking for language to avoid those divides: where one side might speak of illegal aliens and other side might speak of undocumented immigrants, Tangle picked the term unauthorized migrants.

He did a little TED talk about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=543mYKKh1EE

Anyways, just curious how you'll approach this issue. I'm interested in your project and wish you all the best!

Looks like your option has a much smaller set of topics. Science, Technology, Economics and Regional news are largely absent

Yes the focus is largely on international news.

Your feelings against news focused on America are valid, but there's no denying that the second Trump administration is such a world-shaking event, in a scale not foreseen by mainstream media or markets, that it would be weird not to have it everywhere. "President of the richest country in history unilaterally tariffs the entire world without approval of Congress" is, like it or not, a bigger headline than Europe's endless regulatory arguments

I'm with you on that one. An option to exclude certain words/topics/individuals would be great.

Actually, I dont need a "smart newsfeed" to hear about Trump. Smart is not about who is doing the show every day, it's about what's important and may be missed

It is not by choice, but because that is what all major world outlets are writing about (and Kagi News has super diverse selection of sources). What makes an event 'significant' is number of publishers writing about it.

Will you have an RSS feed that can be integrated into Tapestry (mobile app by Iconfactory)?