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Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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539 points donohoe | 5 comments | 09 Jul 25 14:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.984s | source
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jeffbee ◴[09 Jul 25 15:09 UTC] No.44510975[source]▶
Have any of the people who noisily joined X to make a big impact fast actually had a big impact over any time frame? Remember when G. Hotz said he was going to fix Twitter search in 6 weeks, and then it turned out that G. Hotz is just another midwit like anyone else and Twitter search is still as bad as ever? Yaccarino said they were going to transform Twitter into the "everything app" with payments, marketplaces, and even banking. None of which it turns out was within the abilities of Linda Yaccarino.
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add-sub-mul-div ◴[09 Jul 25 15:48 UTC] No.44511521[source]▶
Twitter is a graveyard being propped up grudgingly by people who don't want to have fewer followers elsewhere, and enthusiastically by other people as way to virtue signal alliance with the ownership's political incorrectness. It has no true value to anyone. It was going downhill already before the new ownership and for completely apolitical reasons.
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bee_rider ◴[09 Jul 25 16:28 UTC] No.44511955[source]▶
It is weird that “political correctness” has been taken to mean, like, being polite and nice to people or something.

A politically correct answer is one that keeps the currently politically powerful people happy, right? Musk/Trump defined politically correct for a couple months. I guess Musk might be politically incorrect now. Are they friends or enemies today?

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hollerith ◴[09 Jul 25 16:31 UTC] No.44511999[source]▶
"Politically correct" in the US context means essentially the same thing as "woke". In both cases, the word or phrase was adopted first by progressives, then by critics of progressives to refer to progressive beliefs and sensibilities.

It is surprising to find someone that doesn't know that, but would be less surprising if you don't live in the US.

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bee_rider ◴[09 Jul 25 16:48 UTC] No.44512218[source]▶
> It is weird that “political correctness” has been taken to mean, like, being polite and nice to people or something.

> "Politically correct" in the US context means essentially the same thing as "woke"

I think it is (hopefully?) obvious from my comment that I actually do understand what it means in the US context, I was describing the odd situation WRT the US meaning and the origin of the phrase

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

> The term political correctness first appeared in Marxist–Leninist vocabulary following the Russian Revolution of 1917. At that time, it was used to describe strict adherence to the policies and principles of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, that is, the party line.

The politically correct opinions were the ones that agreed with those in power.

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1. hollerith ◴[09 Jul 25 17:12 UTC] No.44512520[source]▶
I knew about the Soviet use, which is why I qualified with "in the US context".

Every use I've ever heard from a US speaker -- almost certainly over 100 uses, going back to when Reagan was President or maybe a year or 2 after Reagan -- is a reference to progressive beliefs and sensibilities regardless of whether the progressives are in power or not.

You are introducing your own definition of a phrase that everyone currently agrees on the meaning of. When this is done for no good reason, it is harmful because everyone relies on language to think together, so when the meaning of words get muddied unnecessarily, we get worse at thinking together.

What, pray, is your reason?

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2. dylan604 ◴[09 Jul 25 17:25 UTC] No.44512669[source]▶
There was a lot of radio word play. They couldn't say "that sucks" so they said "that vacuums" instead type of nonsense. Now, they just say "that sucks". But back around the Bush Sr and Clinton period, there were changes to broadcast rules that led to talk radio becoming what it has which also led to Fox News and then everyone else following suit
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3. hollerith ◴[09 Jul 25 17:32 UTC] No.44512750[source]▶
Hi, sadly, I removed my description the first time I heard "politically correct" (on KUSF during the Reagan admin or maybe a year or 2 later) because I did not need it.
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4. bee_rider ◴[09 Jul 25 17:52 UTC] No.44512950[source]▶
> I knew about the Soviet use, which is why I qualified with "in the US context".

I assumed you knew the modern and the original use. I generally assume folks know the basic definitions of the terms they are using (until proven otherwise), because otherwise the conversation will get really tedious and pointless…

5. hollerith ◴[09 Jul 25 22:14 UTC] No.44515234{3}[source]▶
"my description of the first time I heard"