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ceejayoz ◴[] No.44510830[source]
I guess the Nazi chatbot was the last straw. Amazed she lasted this long, honestly.
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Bender ◴[] No.44510978[source]
Not defending Elon or the infobot but my theory is that by leaving that LLM unfiltered people have learned how to gamify and manipulate it into having a fascist slant. I could even guess which groups of people are doing it but I will let them take credit and it's not likely actual neo-nazi's, they are too dumb and on too many drugs to manipulate an infobot. These groups like to LARP to piss everyone off and they often succeed. If I am right it is a set of splintered groups formerly referred to generically as The Internet Hate Machine but they have (d)evolved into something worse that even 4chan could not tolerate.
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1. hackyhacky ◴[] No.44511135[source]
> Not defending Elon or the infobot but my theory is that by leaving that LLM unfiltered people have learned how to gamify and manipulate it into having a fascist slant.

We don't need a theory that explains how Grok got a fascist slant, we know exactly what happened: Musk promise to remove the "woke" from Grok, and what's left is Nazi. [1]

[1] https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/08/tech/grok-ai-antisemitism

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2. philipallstar ◴[] No.44511207[source]
> we know exactly what happened

The price of certainty is inaccuracy.

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3. delusional ◴[] No.44511627[source]
So the only way to be accurate is to vaguely gesture at hodgepodge theories and suggestions that people "do their own research"?

Surely you can be both accurate and certain, otherwise you should just shut up and be right all the time.

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4. philipallstar ◴[] No.44521423{3}[source]
> So the only way to be accurate is to vaguely gesture at hodgepodge theories and suggestions that people "do their own research"?

Yours was a hodgepodge theory. That's why I said that. I was advocating against hodgepodge theories in general, and yours in particular.