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Linda Yaccarino is leaving X

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539 points donohoe | 6 comments | 09 Jul 25 14:52 UTC | HN request time: 0.581s | source | bottom
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ceejayoz ◴[09 Jul 25 14:59 UTC] No.44510830[source]▶
I guess the Nazi chatbot was the last straw. Amazed she lasted this long, honestly.
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Bender ◴[09 Jul 25 15:09 UTC] No.44510978[source]▶
Not defending Elon or the infobot but my theory is that by leaving that LLM unfiltered people have learned how to gamify and manipulate it into having a fascist slant. I could even guess which groups of people are doing it but I will let them take credit and it's not likely actual neo-nazi's, they are too dumb and on too many drugs to manipulate an infobot. These groups like to LARP to piss everyone off and they often succeed. If I am right it is a set of splintered groups formerly referred to generically as The Internet Hate Machine but they have (d)evolved into something worse that even 4chan could not tolerate.
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1. gtsop ◴[09 Jul 25 15:15 UTC] No.44511059[source]▶
> it's not likely actual neo-nazi's, they are too dumb to manipulate an infobot.

No they are not. There exist brilliant people and monkeybrains across the whole population and thus the political spectrum. The ratios might be different, but I am pretty sure there exist some very smart neo-nazis

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2. pavlov ◴[09 Jul 25 15:26 UTC] No.44511229[source]▶
Curtis Yarvin’s writing is insufferable and many of his ideas are both bad and effectively Nazism, but clearly he’s very smart (and very eager to prove it).
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3. pxc ◴[09 Jul 25 16:32 UTC] No.44512010[source]▶
There are, but fascism's internal cultural fixtures are more aesthetic than intellectual. It doesn't really attract or foster intellectuals like some radical political movements do, and it shows very clearly in the composition of the "rank and file".

Put plainly, the average neo-Nazi is astonishingly, astonishingly stupid.

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5. dragonwriter ◴[09 Jul 25 17:47 UTC] No.44512903[source]▶
> It doesn't really attract or foster intellectuals like some radical political movements do

It definitely attracts people who are competent in technology and propaganda is sufficient numbers for the task being discussed, especially when as a mass movement it has (or is perceived to have) a position of power that advantage-seeking people want to exploit. If anything, the common perception that fascists are "astonishingly, astonishingly stupid" makes this more attractive for people who are both competent and also amoral opportunists (which do occur together, competence and moral virtue aren't particularly correlated.)

6. FireBeyond ◴[09 Jul 25 20:27 UTC] No.44514414[source]▶
Yarvin is an out-and-out white nationalist, though he denies it, or at least the name: "I am not a white nationalist, though I am not exactly allergic to the stuff" - whatever the hell that mealy-mouthed answer is meant to mean.

He even wrote a bloviating article to further clarify that he is not a white nationalist. You'd be forgiven, though, if you didn't read the title. It spends most of the article sympathizing with, understanding, agreeing with, and talking of how white nationalism "resonates" with him. But don't worry, he swears he's not one at the end of the article!