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Solar power has begun to transform the world’s energy system

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353 points dmazin | 9 comments | 09 Jul 25 12:31 UTC | HN request time: 0.901s | source | bottom
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arh5451 ◴[09 Jul 25 13:30 UTC] No.44509839[source]▶
Nice article explaining solar energy policy. I think the article still doesn't address the mismatch between solar energy production and consumption, which needs to be filled by storage mechanisms. Also would have been nice to have a critical look at how the Chinese were able to corner the Solar market via state sponsored means.
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1. aaomidi ◴[09 Jul 25 14:27 UTC] No.44510461[source]▶
US was giving $7500 for each car sold to Tesla. But sure, CHYNAAA
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2. mensetmanusman ◴[09 Jul 25 14:34 UTC] No.44510534[source]▶
Whatever the number is in the west, China has on average ~ 10x the amount of subsidies than the west when it comes to manufacturing.

Policy makers are trying to decide whether it’s too risky to shut down all manufacturing of heavy machine capable industries and hand it over to China.

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3. hearsathought ◴[09 Jul 25 15:24 UTC] No.44511206[source]▶
> Whatever the number is in the west

So you don't know what the number is?

> China has on average ~ 10x the amount of subsidies than the west when it comes to manufacturing.

And yet you just randomly decide to 10X it for china?

Typical disingenuous anti-china nonsense. What's next? China spends 10X on defense compared to "the west"?

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4. bryanlarsen ◴[09 Jul 25 16:10 UTC] No.44511764[source]▶
China obviously does not subsidize $75,000 per car.

European analysis resulted in an 18% offsetting duty, meaning Chinese subsidies are lower than American ones.

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5. kjkjadksj ◴[09 Jul 25 17:55 UTC] No.44512987[source]▶
Imo that didn’t do much but push people into tesla that were in the market for new cars already. Teslas are cheap enough on a lease as it is.
6. testing22321 ◴[09 Jul 25 18:27 UTC] No.44513322[source]▶
They gave that same rebate to all EV manufacturers. It had nothing to do with any one brand.
7. mensetmanusman ◴[09 Jul 25 21:01 UTC] No.44514708{3}[source]▶
No it’s not focused on vehicles, that’s the average subsidy on manufacturing.

According to the treasury dept (and the EU): https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2455

8. mensetmanusman ◴[09 Jul 25 21:01 UTC] No.44514711{3}[source]▶
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2455
9. ferguess_k ◴[10 Jul 25 13:19 UTC] No.44520708[source]▶
West simply decided to de-industrialize itself (at least some countries, not all of them) and asked the other countries to do the dirty work for them so they can focus on finance and such, so of course the West has less subsidies -- and no one is forcing the West's hand NOT to give subsidies. Now it takes triple hard to pick it back, if the West really wants.