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ReptileMan ◴[] No.44506825[source]
Probably a bad idea. The big economies of the eurozone have been in constant stagnation for the last 15 years. To me it seems that Bulgaria has jumped on Titanic on Qweenstown. I do hope that I am wrong, but those are the same people that made the plastic caps permanently attached to the bottles.
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perching_aix ◴[] No.44506864[source]
> but those are the same people that made the plastic caps permanently attached to the bottles

It's still hilarious to me how upset people are at this (or at least pretend to be).

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ReptileMan ◴[] No.44506914[source]
It is inconvenience for all, with at best minimal benefits, but it makes couple of bureaucrats and greens feel good about themselves. People are upset because it shows Brussels disfunction in a nutshell.
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perching_aix ◴[] No.44507025[source]
But it really isn't that inconvenient at all, and some of the caps are outright better now than the crap that preceded them. Bit like how the toilet water use regulations turned out.

I even find myself vaguely annoyed now whenever I drink from glass bottles, that those caps are loose.

> People are upset because it shows Brussels disfunction

Reminds me to that meme where the debated point is what OS is better, and the conclusion is that normal people don't talk about operating systems. The only people I ever hear mention Brussels unprompted are rightwing grifters.

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menaerus ◴[] No.44507340[source]
It's a taxpayer's money so why wouldn't the taxpayers have a point if they think that their money is not spent best and, in the context of the global situation, not really efficient at all in making the quality of life of EU citizens any better?

To paraphrase this differently: if I as an investor gave you 100M EUR and 24 months, would you be happy to spend it for changing a frigging cap on the bottle or would you rather invest that money and time+people resources on something else?

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wiseowise ◴[] No.44507560[source]
I am an EU taxpayer. Caps stay bolted on.

> To paraphrase this differently: if I as an investor gave you 100M EUR and 24 months, would you be happy to spend it for changing a frigging cap on the bottle or would you rather invest that money and time+people resources on something else?

Grifter 101 – “think about what we’d be able to achieve if you did X instead of Y, comrade!”.

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1. menaerus ◴[] No.44507667[source]
It's fine with me if you think that the bottle caps were a worthy move, ok? We are different in the fact that I prefer to discuss objectively with arguments and not using the collective bias as you seem to impose on me without actually knowing anything about me. My mind is open for discussion but probably not suitable for the likes who cannot think out of the box. As for the grifter, I don't think you really understand the meaning of that word.
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2. perching_aix ◴[] No.44507899[source]
I guess this is my fault, sorry everyone.

Let me clarify here, cause the editing window for my comment upstream from this has already passed:

> People are upset because it shows Brussels disfunction in a nutshell.

This is what I was reacting to when I said that in my experience people who bring up Brussels like this "are rightwing grifters".

It wasn't in the sense that I was pointing at the person above or anyone else in particular here with this label, but rather, that I was taking an issue with the claim that this kind of thinking (Brussels this, Brussels that) is a people at large thing ("people are upset because"), rather than just something prevalent in those aforementioned circles.

This does sort of imply that I think the person above my comments belongs to those circles, but that really doesn't need to be true, nor was that really my intention to suggest necessarily. I guess this is as good of a lesson for me as any why engaging in labeling (particularly negative one) can be detrimental to discourse, regardless of context. Apologies.