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ReptileMan ◴[] No.44506825[source]
Probably a bad idea. The big economies of the eurozone have been in constant stagnation for the last 15 years. To me it seems that Bulgaria has jumped on Titanic on Qweenstown. I do hope that I am wrong, but those are the same people that made the plastic caps permanently attached to the bottles.
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perching_aix ◴[] No.44506864[source]
> but those are the same people that made the plastic caps permanently attached to the bottles

It's still hilarious to me how upset people are at this (or at least pretend to be).

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ReptileMan ◴[] No.44506914[source]
It is inconvenience for all, with at best minimal benefits, but it makes couple of bureaucrats and greens feel good about themselves. People are upset because it shows Brussels disfunction in a nutshell.
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perching_aix ◴[] No.44507025[source]
But it really isn't that inconvenient at all, and some of the caps are outright better now than the crap that preceded them. Bit like how the toilet water use regulations turned out.

I even find myself vaguely annoyed now whenever I drink from glass bottles, that those caps are loose.

> People are upset because it shows Brussels disfunction

Reminds me to that meme where the debated point is what OS is better, and the conclusion is that normal people don't talk about operating systems. The only people I ever hear mention Brussels unprompted are rightwing grifters.

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menaerus ◴[] No.44507340[source]
It's a taxpayer's money so why wouldn't the taxpayers have a point if they think that their money is not spent best and, in the context of the global situation, not really efficient at all in making the quality of life of EU citizens any better?

To paraphrase this differently: if I as an investor gave you 100M EUR and 24 months, would you be happy to spend it for changing a frigging cap on the bottle or would you rather invest that money and time+people resources on something else?

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perching_aix ◴[] No.44507430[source]
> It's a taxpayer's money so why wouldn't the taxpayers have a point if they think that their money is not spent best

Not what I said.

> in the context of the global situation, not really efficient at all in making the quality of life of EU citizens any better?

Why would all decisions have to be this massively efficient slamdunk of an idea? Things can even be downright specifically bad yet still be generally useful in the grand scheme of things. Things can also be just kind of a stinker sometimes. You don't normally skewer something large over a minor issue. Critique is fine, but then "I don't like it" doesn't hold much weight, certainly not more than "well I do".

> would you rather invest that money and time+people resources on something else?

Are the levers I can and am expected to pull on the same as the EU? I don't think so.

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1. menaerus ◴[] No.44507487[source]
> Not what I said.

It's exactly what you were questioning and which is why I gave you the concrete example why people get attached to this particular non-problem.

As for the rest of your comment, I think it went a little bit over your head.

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2. perching_aix ◴[] No.44507514[source]
> It's exactly what you were questioning

My remark about most people who bring up Brussels unprompted being rightwing grifters really was just that, and nothing else.

It is not lost on me that like anything, they can and should be critiqued as well.

It's just not really being done, and when it is done, it's usually coming from a place of ulterior motives and ill faith (for now), and so is fairly uncommon. So it's a strange thing to claim that that's what "people think of". No it isn't, not unless you're in the aforementioned circles, which is not the general populace at all.

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3. menaerus ◴[] No.44507685[source]
Ok, I wasn't making a comment about "rightwing grifters" although this is also certainly amenable to discussion but I was rather making a comment on why would some people find it contrary to what you said in your first comment - "It's still hilarious to me how upset people are at this (or at least pretend to be)."
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4. perching_aix ◴[] No.44507835{3}[source]
Oh okay, I misunderstood. Could have just replied to my initial comment then to be fair.