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decimalenough ◴[] No.44506006[source]
Credit where credit is due: the EU gets a lot of flack for being bureaucratic, hidebound, sclerotic, whatever, but the single currency has been a success and it's still expanding, 26 years after its creation.

Also, the addition of Bulgaria means it's almost possible to travel from Spain to Greece entirely through the Eurozone, with only a thin sliver of Serbia or Macedonia in the way. (Assuming we include Montenegro and Kosovo in the Eurozone: technically they aren't, but for all practical purposes they are.)

It'll also be interesting to see who's next. Czechia is not far off but doesn't seem to be in a hurry, while Romania wants in but still seems to be a ways off. Poland and Hungary will stay outside unless there are major political changes.

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crossroadsguy ◴[] No.44506428[source]
I have always felt it was a mistake allowing countries inside the EU but not the currency. But when one looks at the dates - and they are 6 years apart - it becomes clear why. I wonder how it would have turned out had Euro and EU been launched together. Would it have been "a package" or optional?
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jochem9 ◴[] No.44506558[source]
All EU countries are required to join the euro. This was agreed in the 1992 Maastricht treaty when the EU was founded (and the EMU, which was the starting point of the euro). Only Denmark and the UK negotiated an opt-out at the time.

Only problem is that there are no deadlines and it's up to the country to make a plan for adopting the euro.

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1. ingohelpinger ◴[] No.44506573[source]
the same treaty says state financing through the ECB is illegal, but they do it anyway.
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2. epolanski ◴[] No.44506790[source]
They don't?

All EU emitted debt goes towards specific projects.

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3. ingohelpinger ◴[] No.44506853[source]
what? the ECB is buying state bonds. maybe thats the reason the ECB is its own state, no authorities allowed to enter the building. wondering how they will audit the ECB. ahh right, they wont. :)