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Bulgaria to join euro area on 1 January 2026

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257 points toomuchtodo | 10 comments | 09 Jul 25 00:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.866s | source | bottom
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jmyeet ◴[09 Jul 25 01:21 UTC] No.44505485[source]▶
This will likely come with a one-time significant increase in inflation, at least based on other European countries.

When Germany converted to the Euro, the conversion rate was (IIRC) about ~2 DM to the Euro but from what I recall, a lot of everyday things went from costing 7 DM to 7 euro, effectively doubling in price. IIRC France was similar (ie ~6.5 francs to the Euro but 10 Francs went to 3 euro, etc).

I've tried searching for any studies on this to see if the effect was measured and, if so, whether it held with later countries joining the euro.

I'm a little surprised that the euro has been this stable for this long (going on 30 years). Finland debated leaving. IT's debated if there's even a legal mechanism to leave. We still have the problem that the ECB sets eurozone monetary policy with Germany and Greece being vastly different economies.

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1. mynameisbob ◴[09 Jul 25 02:08 UTC] No.44505728[source]▶
I was in Belgium the week the Belgian franc converted to Euros. I saw no price changes other than rounding up or down to the nearest Euro equivalent price. If memory serves some stores showed prices in both denominations for a while which would not have allowed for stealth inflation to happen.

The currencies were pegged for a period before then so other than niche cases there really weren’t opportunities for massive price increases.

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2. BlaDeKke ◴[09 Jul 25 03:01 UTC] No.44505992[source]▶
I’m Belgian. This is correct. Even now, some people here still convert euros to francs to get a grasp on the value.
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3. Aeolun ◴[09 Jul 25 03:17 UTC] No.44506060[source]▶
This feels odd to me. The only people I can really see doing this is ones that were 70+ when the Euro was introduced.
4. oaiey ◴[09 Jul 25 04:14 UTC] No.44506285[source]▶
Did not happen in Germany either. Inflation and price hikes came but later. And had nothing to do with currency system but were overdue price adjustments or greed of companies.
5. lttlrck ◴[09 Jul 25 04:22 UTC] No.44506329[source]▶
I remember the rounding up in Germany. But that was the extent of it. It was a one time event and wasn't difficult to absorb.
6. Scoundreller ◴[09 Jul 25 05:00 UTC] No.44506465[source]▶
> I saw no price changes other than rounding up or down to the nearest Euro equivalent price

Dunno about Belgium but what I notice in French supermarkets is that prices aren’t rounded at all. 10k SKUs will have 10k different prices (ish).

Plain frozen pizza? 4,62 EUR.

Same with pepperoni? 4,92 EUR

Domestic 500mL beer? 1,14 EUR

Fancier beer? 1,81 EUR

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7. W3zzy ◴[09 Jul 25 05:41 UTC] No.44506645[source]▶
Belgium had double denominations for about two years. My mother owned a business at that time and she used the occasion to correct the prices a bit bit that was only because she lagged a bit on inflation.
8. W3zzy ◴[09 Jul 25 05:44 UTC] No.44506665[source]▶
Plain frozen pizza? gesticulates annoyed in Italian ;-)
9. skerit ◴[09 Jul 25 05:45 UTC] No.44506668[source]▶
40,3399 BEF

They really hammered this in. It was even a question on my exams.

10. W3zzy ◴[09 Jul 25 05:51 UTC] No.44506700[source]▶
I did that a while ago and stopped immediately because it's scary and irrelevant. My parents house was wrote expensive at the rule they bought it at 600.000 Bfr. Now it's being valued at 600.000 euros. That's a factor 40 over about 30 years. When euro landed a beer cost about 45 Bfr, a bit over a euro. Now I pay €2,5. It's hard to compare prices over that period of time.