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ryanrasti ◴[] No.44501761[source]
> With Gemini Apps Activity turned off, their Gemini chats are not being reviewed or used to improve our AI models.

Indeed bizarre as the statement doesn't say much about data collection or retention.

More generally, I'm conflicted here -- I'm big on personal privacy but the power & convenience that AI will bring will probably be too great to overcome. I'm hoping that powerful, locally-run AI models will become a mainstream alternative.

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1. bundie ◴[] No.44501830[source]
Personally, I prefer AI to stay in its own corner. Let ChatGPT, Gemini, and the rest be something I open when I need them, like a website or an app. I'm not really into the whole "everything should have AI built into it" idea.

It kind of reminds me of how the internet used to be. Back then, you had to go to a specific room to use the family computer. The internet was something you visited. Now, tech is everywhere, from our pockets to our bathrooms. I’m not sure I want AI following that same path.

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2. bonoboTP ◴[] No.44501973[source]
It's going the opposite direction. AI won't be inside each different thing, instead everything else will be nested under the AI. Like Gemini here. AI will have user-equivalent access to interact with any app. It will be the default and people will not mind it because it's convenient and if you have nothing to hide.
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3. ryanrasti ◴[] No.44502039[source]
Agreed the privacy that keeping AI "in a corner" appeals to me too.

The fundamental catch here is that 80%+ of the future benefit will likely come from the very thing that erodes privacy: deep integration and context. Imagine if a Gemini had your entire life in its context (haha scary I know!), prompting would be so much more powerful.

That's the core, uncomfortable trade-off we're all facing now.

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4. bonoboTP ◴[] No.44502483[source]
> Imagine if a Gemini had your entire life in its context (haha scary I know!)

Windows Recall [1] is this for your PC activities (not yet fed to AI, but I see no reason to think it will stay this way). Meta is working on glasses to record the IRL part. But your phone is probably enough for most of it. Joining Zoom meetings with AI note takers is getting popular [2]. Not long until in-person meetings will have AI listening in from the phone mics, of course just to increase productivity and to summarize and remind you later. Convenience!

[1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/retrace-your-ste... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44446916

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5. pests ◴[] No.44502610[source]
What if you do have something to hide?
6. SoftTalker ◴[] No.44502624{3}[source]
If I can have the AI agent attend the meeting for me in the first place, and then provide me the notes that's the winning play. Take the morning stand-up: all the developers' agents know what they are working on and what any blockers are. They can all exchange information in a virtual AI meeting and then send the notes around. Meanwhile all the developers are getting something productive done.
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7. JohnFen ◴[] No.44503185[source]
It's not an uncomfortable tradeoff to me. These systems being deeply integrated is simply too high of a price to pay. I cannot imagine a future benefit so great that it would be worth that.
8. samrus ◴[] No.44503228{4}[source]
Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/VcHc54Z_b3w
9. netsharc ◴[] No.44503595[source]
Women were sharing their menstruation information with apps, until they surprisingly ended up in a corrupt regime with a corrupt judiciary that weaponizes this information to take away the rights over their own body...