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amelius ◴[] No.44481831[source]
> I've been building software for the Mac since 2008

Ok, so they knew where Claude went wrong and could correct for it.

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dangus ◴[] No.44481892[source]
And at the bottom it’s revealed that this costs $200/month. I have trouble convincing myself to give Autodesk $50/month and I need that software for my primary hobby.

And none of these AI companies are profitable. Imagine how much it will cost or how much it will be enshittified when the investors come looking for their returns.

If everyone whose code illegally trained these models won a copyright lawsuit against Claude it would suddenly not be so good at writing swift code.

Do we really want to bet on Disney losing their AI lawsuit?

Honestly I realize my comment is not adding much to the discussion but the AI fatigue is real. At this point I think HN and other tech forums would do well to ban the topic for posts like this.

Imagine if we were upvoting stories about how people are getting lots of coding done easier with Google and StackOverflow. It would be rightfully ridiculed as vapid content. Ultimately that’s what this blog post is. I really don’t care to hear how yet another dingus “programmer” is using AI to do their hobby/job for them.

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Wowfunhappy ◴[] No.44482556[source]
> And at the bottom it’s revealed that this costs $200/month.

So, firstly, the limits on the $100/month plan are reasonably high in my experience. I do hit them, but it takes quite a bit.

> I have trouble convincing myself to give Autodesk $50/month and I need that software for my primary hobby.

Before I used Claude Code, I absolutely would have agreed with you, $100–$200 every month is just a ridiculous amount for any software. After using Claude Code... yeah, that's just how darn good it is!

> Imagine if we were upvoting stories about how people are getting lots of coding done easier with Google and StackOverflow.

You know, something I've thought about before (as in, before LLMs) is just how hard (impossible?) it would be for me to program without an internet connection. I'm constantly Googling stuff.

I can absolutely imagine that if I was a programmer before widespread internet use, and the internet launched with things like Google and lots of resources out of the gate... yeah, that would be revelatory! I'm not saying AI is necessarily the same, but it's something to think about.

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dangus ◴[] No.44484188[source]
And what will a $100/month barrier to do the economic mobility of aspiring software engineers?

No we are going to have a haves and haves not situation where the poor kid who wants to get a better job and get out of poverty is competing with the dude who has a $100-200/month AI subscription writing code for him.

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Wowfunhappy ◴[] No.44484282{3}[source]
...actually, I think it's mostly good for people to learn to code without AI first. AI is really good at simple things and often can't do hard things, but humans can't learn to do the hard things unless they learn the easy things first. This is a way in which AI is not like the internet!

I do feel AI impeding my own learning in this way and it's probably the aspect I'm most concerned about.

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1. dangus ◴[] No.44498639{4}[source]
I’m really not talking about the learning part, I’m talking about the part where people need to be competitive in the job market.

E.g., a job interviewer in the world of AI will be asking you to perform more complex example work under the assumption that you have access to AI.