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A non-anthropomorphized view of LLMs

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477 points zdw | 4 comments | 06 Jul 25 22:26 UTC | HN request time: 0.967s | source
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chaps ◴[06 Jul 25 23:04 UTC] No.44484946[source]▶
I highly recommend playing with embeddings in order to get a stronger intuitive sense of this. It really starts to click that it's a representation of high dimensional space when you can actually see their positions within that space.
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perching_aix ◴[06 Jul 25 23:26 UTC] No.44485088[source]▶
> of this

You mean that LLMs are more than just the matmuls they're made up of, or that that is exactly what they are and how great that is?

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chaps ◴[06 Jul 25 23:31 UTC] No.44485124[source]▶
Not making a qualitative assessment of any of it. Just pointing out that there are ways to build separate sets of intuition outside of using the "usual" presentation layer. It's very possible to take a red-team approach to these systems, friend.
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perching_aix ◴[07 Jul 25 18:09 UTC] No.44493103[source]▶
Yes, and what I was trying to do is learn a bit more about that alternative intuition of yours. Because it doesn't sound all that different from what's described in the OP, or what anyone can trivially glean from taking a 101 course on AI at university or similar.
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chaps ◴[08 Jul 25 01:06 UTC] No.44496047[source]▶
So what? :)
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1. perching_aix ◴[08 Jul 25 05:47 UTC] No.44497441[source]▶
Nothing? """:)"""

Was just confusing because your phrasing implied different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle

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2. chaps ◴[10 Jul 25 15:51 UTC] No.44522358[source]▶
My real point was to emphasize that play is important because it expands our world of interfaces, whatever those interfaces may be, and however far those interfaces go.

Your antagonistic attitude is not productive nor playful. Lighten up, friend.

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3. perching_aix ◴[10 Jul 25 19:05 UTC] No.44524377[source]▶
We're veering extremely off topic, but I don't think you're aware and maybe you should be: my antagonistic attitude is 100% a reaction to you being overly friendly. Calling me your "friend" repeatedly without any prior acquaintance comes across as remarkably sarcastic and condescending. The "So what? :)" wasn't any less condescending either as you may imagine, in fact, quite the opposite.

I'm sure there are people who can always reliably respond with kindness despite being handed condescension. As you can probably tell by now, I'm not one of those.

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4. chaps ◴[11 Jul 25 18:02 UTC] No.44535227{3}[source]▶
I really enjoyed our conversation. I hope you have a better summer, friend!