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dehrmann ◴[] No.44491718[source]
The important parts:

> Alsup ruled that Anthropic's use of copyrighted books to train its AI models was "exceedingly transformative" and qualified as fair use

> "All Anthropic did was replace the print copies it had purchased for its central library with more convenient space-saving and searchable digital copies for its central library — without adding new copies, creating new works, or redistributing existing copies"

It was always somewhat obvious that pirating a library would be copyright infringement. The interesting findings here are that scanning and digitizing a library for internal use is OK, and using it to train models is fair use.

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6gvONxR4sf7o ◴[] No.44491944[source]
You skipped quotes about the other important side:

> But Alsup drew a firm line when it came to piracy.

> "Anthropic had no entitlement to use pirated copies for its central library," Alsup wrote. "Creating a permanent, general-purpose library was not itself a fair use excusing Anthropic's piracy."

That is, he ruled that

- buying, physically cutting up, physically digitizing books, and using them for training is fair use

- pirating the books for their digital library is not fair use.

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pier25 ◴[] No.44493580[source]
> buying, physically cutting up, physically digitizing books, and using them for training is fair use

So Suno would only really need to buy the physical albums and rip them to be able to generate music at an industrial scale?

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1. ohdeargodno ◴[] No.44493850{3}[source]
Only if the physical albums don't have copy protection, otherwise you're circumenventing it and that's illegal. Or is it, against the right to private copy? If anything, AI at least shows that all of the existing copyright laws are utter bullshit made to make Disney happy.

Do keep in mind though: this is only for the wealthy. They're still going to send the Pinkertons at your house if you dare copy a Blu-ray.

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2. zerocrates ◴[] No.44493923[source]
With some minor exceptions, CDs don't have copy protection.
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3. nilamo ◴[] No.44494068[source]
> They're still going to send the Pinkertons at your house if you dare copy a Blu-ray.

Hey woah now, that's a Hasbro play, not a Disney one.

4. kbelder ◴[] No.44494290[source]
No, because they can just play the album for the AI to learn. AI training can be set up to exploit the analog hole. Same with images/movies
5. FateOfNations ◴[] No.44495085[source]
Minor exception: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...