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Anthropic cut up millions of used books, and downloaded 7M pirated ones – judge

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397 points pyman | 1 comments | 07 Jul 25 09:20 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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ramon156 ◴[07 Jul 25 10:42 UTC] No.44488798[source]▶
Pirate and pay the fine is probably hell of a lot cheaper than individually buying all these books. I'm not saying this is justified, but what would you have done in their situation?

Sayi "they have the money" is not an argument. It's about the amount of effort that is needed to individually buy, scan, process millions of pages. If that's done for you, why re-do it all?

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maeln ◴[07 Jul 25 11:41 UTC] No.44489255[source]▶
If you wanted to be legit with 0 chance of going to court, you would contact publisher and ask to pay a license to get access to their catalog for training, and negotiate from that point.

This is what every company using media are doing (think Spotify, Netflix, but also journal, ad agency, ...). I don't know why people in HN are giving a pass to AI company for this kind of behavior.

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1. CaptainFever ◴[07 Jul 25 18:53 UTC] No.44493519[source]▶
> I don't know why people in HN are giving a pass to AI company for this kind of behavior.

As mentioned in The Fucking Article, there's a legal difference between training an AI which largely doesn't repeat things verbatim (ala Anthropic) and redistributing media as a whole (ala Spotify, Netflix, journal, ad agency).