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Anthropic cut up millions of used books, and downloaded 7M pirated ones – judge

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397 points pyman | 3 comments | 07 Jul 25 09:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.403s | source
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codedokode ◴[07 Jul 25 16:49 UTC] No.44492195[source]▶
If AI companies are allowed to use pirated material to create their products, does it mean that everyone can use pirated software to create products? Where is the line?

Also please don't use word "learning", use "creating software using copyrighted materials".

Also let's think together how can we prevent AI companies from using our work using technical measures if the law doesn't work?

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whycome ◴[07 Jul 25 17:57 UTC] No.44492975[source]▶
But the AI used the content to learn how to copy and recreate it. Is ‘re-creation’ a better concept for us?

People already use pirated software for product creation.

Hypothetical:

I know a guy who learned photoshop on a pirated copy of Photoshop. He went on to be a graphic designer. All his earnings are ‘proceeds from crime’

He never used the pirated software to produce content.

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1. timeon ◴[07 Jul 25 18:51 UTC] No.44493490[source]▶
So can we officially download pirated content to learn stuff now?
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2. southernplaces7 ◴[07 Jul 25 19:16 UTC] No.44493712[source]▶
Sure, and I feel zero moral qualms about me or anyone else doing it. The vast majority of the shit flows flows from the other direction towards individuals and consumers when it comes to content delivery companies and worse still, software companies. Let's address that before wringing our hands about individual acts of "piracy", even at scale.

I could, right now in just a few minutes, go download a perfectly functional pirated copy of nearly any Adobe program, nearly any Microsoft program and a whole range of books and movies, yet I see zero real financial troubles affecting any of the companies behind these. All the contrary in fact.

3. whycome ◴[07 Jul 25 20:40 UTC] No.44494472[source]▶
How often does a link get posted here of content that is behind a paywall? If you bypass it to read it, didny't you just learn via illegal content? I'm not sure where the "official" comes in, but it's clearly widely accepted.

If you watch a YouTube video to learn something and it's later taken down for using copyrighted images, you learned from illegal content.