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Anthropic cut up millions of used books, and downloaded 7M pirated ones – judge

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393 points pyman | 5 comments | 07 Jul 25 09:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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tliltocatl ◴[07 Jul 25 10:49 UTC] No.44488844[source]▶
If the AI movement will manage to undermine Imaginary Property, it would redeem it's externalities threefold.
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1. 57473m3n7Fur7h3 ◴[07 Jul 25 10:57 UTC] No.44488891[source]▶
I don’t think that’s gonna happen. I think they will manage to get themselves out of trouble for it, while the rest of us will still face serious problems if we are caught torrenting even one singular little book.
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2. tliltocatl ◴[07 Jul 25 11:01 UTC] No.44488914[source]▶
Even so, would be hard to prove that this particular little book wasn't generated by Claude (oopsie, it happens to be a verbatim copy of a copyrighted work, that happens sometimes, those pesky LLMs).
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3. pyman ◴[07 Jul 25 11:53 UTC] No.44489369[source]▶
You just need to audit their system. Shouldn't take more than a couple of hours.
4. 2OEH8eoCRo0 ◴[07 Jul 25 14:12 UTC] No.44490581[source]▶
The Ocean Full of Bowling Balls
5. CaptainFever ◴[07 Jul 25 18:11 UTC] No.44493122[source]▶
It's already quite widespread and likely legal for average people to train AI models on copyrighted material, in the open weight AI communities like SD and LocalLLaMa.

Please, please differentiate between pirating books (which Anthrophic is liable for, and is still illegal) and training on copyrighted material (which was found to be legal, for both corporations and average people).