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raspasov ◴[] No.44485275[source]
Anyone who claims that a poorly definined concept, AGI, is right around the corner is most likely:

- trying to sell something

- high on their own stories

- high on exogenous compounds

- all of the above

LLMs are good at language. They are OK summarizers of text by design but not good at logic. Very poor at spatial reasoning and as a result poor at connecting concepts together.

Just ask any of the crown jewel LLM models "What's the biggest unsolved problem in the [insert any] field".

The usual result is a pop-science-level article but with ton of subtle yet critical mistakes! Even worse, the answer sounds profound on the surface. In reality, it's just crap.

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0x20cowboy ◴[] No.44486682[source]
LLM are a compressed version of their training dataset with a text based interactive search function.
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lexandstuff ◴[] No.44487019[source]
Yes, but you're missing their ability to interpolate across that dataset at retrieval time, which is what makes them extremely useful. Also, people are willing to invest a lot of money to keep building those datasets, until nearly everything of economic value is in there.
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beeflet ◴[] No.44487043[source]
not everything of economic value is data retrieval
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bluefirebrand ◴[] No.44487118[source]
Most economic value is not data retrieval
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HaZeust ◴[] No.44487265[source]
The stock market is the root for the majority of all the world's economic value, and has almost-exclusively been data retrieval since 2001.
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andsoitis ◴[] No.44487419[source]
Come on. The stock market is not just data retrieval. The statement doesn’t even make sense.
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HaZeust ◴[] No.44487602[source]
It makes perfect sense, and I meant what I said.

60% of all US equity volume is pure high-frequency trading, and ETFs add roughly another 20% that’s literally just bots responding to market activity and bearish-bullish sentiment analysis on public(?) press releases. 2/3 of trading funds also rely on external data to price in decisions, and I think it was around 90% in 2021 use trading algorithms as their determining factor for their high-frequency trade strategies.

At its core, the movements that make up the market really IS data retrieval.

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1. bdelmas ◴[] No.44488465[source]
The percentage is irrelevant without knowing how they really work and how much profit they make. They could be at 95% with 0.1% of margin it wouldn’t mean much for the market.

At the end of the day talking about HFT this way is to not know what they do and what service they offer to the market. Overall they are not trending makers but trend followers.