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raspasov ◴[] No.44485275[source]
Anyone who claims that a poorly definined concept, AGI, is right around the corner is most likely:

- trying to sell something

- high on their own stories

- high on exogenous compounds

- all of the above

LLMs are good at language. They are OK summarizers of text by design but not good at logic. Very poor at spatial reasoning and as a result poor at connecting concepts together.

Just ask any of the crown jewel LLM models "What's the biggest unsolved problem in the [insert any] field".

The usual result is a pop-science-level article but with ton of subtle yet critical mistakes! Even worse, the answer sounds profound on the surface. In reality, it's just crap.

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0x20cowboy ◴[] No.44486682[source]
LLM are a compressed version of their training dataset with a text based interactive search function.
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lexandstuff ◴[] No.44487019[source]
Yes, but you're missing their ability to interpolate across that dataset at retrieval time, which is what makes them extremely useful. Also, people are willing to invest a lot of money to keep building those datasets, until nearly everything of economic value is in there.
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beeflet ◴[] No.44487043[source]
not everything of economic value is data retrieval
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bluefirebrand ◴[] No.44487118[source]
Most economic value is not data retrieval
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HaZeust ◴[] No.44487265[source]
The stock market is the root for the majority of all the world's economic value, and has almost-exclusively been data retrieval since 2001.
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andsoitis ◴[] No.44487419[source]
Come on. The stock market is not just data retrieval. The statement doesn’t even make sense.
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HaZeust ◴[] No.44487602[source]
It makes perfect sense, and I meant what I said.

60% of all US equity volume is pure high-frequency trading, and ETFs add roughly another 20% that’s literally just bots responding to market activity and bearish-bullish sentiment analysis on public(?) press releases. 2/3 of trading funds also rely on external data to price in decisions, and I think it was around 90% in 2021 use trading algorithms as their determining factor for their high-frequency trade strategies.

At its core, the movements that make up the market really IS data retrieval.

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1. exe34 ◴[] No.44487933[source]
The stock market does not grow potatoes.
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2. HaZeust ◴[] No.44487951[source]
And potatoes don't grow nearly as much economic value within industrial societies - as they do in, say, agrarian ones. All to say, I don't understand your point.
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3. exe34 ◴[] No.44487970[source]
The stock market does not make movies either.