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I don't think AGI is right around the corner

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336 points mooreds | 1 comments | 06 Jul 25 20:45 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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izzydata ◴[06 Jul 25 21:24 UTC] No.44484180[source]▶
Not only do I not think it is right around the corner. I'm not even convinced it is even possible or at the very least I don't think it is possible using conventional computer hardware. I don't think being able to regurgitate information in an understandable form is even an adequate or useful measurement of intelligence. If we ever crack artificial intelligence it's highly possible that in its first form it is of very low intelligence by humans standards, but is truly capable of learning on its own without extra help.
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Waterluvian ◴[06 Jul 25 21:48 UTC] No.44484386[source]▶
I think the only way that it’s actually impossible is if we believe that there’s something magical and fundamentally immeasurable about humans that leads to our general intelligence. Otherwise we’re just machines, after all. A human brain is theoretically reproducible outside standard biological mechanisms, if you have a good enough nanolathe.

Maybe our first AGI is just a Petri dish brain with a half-decent python API. Maybe it’s more sand-based, though.

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knome ◴[06 Jul 25 23:39 UTC] No.44485168[source]▶
>Maybe our first AGI is just a Petri dish brain with a half-decent python API.

https://www.oddee.com/australian-company-launches-worlds-fir...

the entire idea feels rather immoral to me, but it does exist.

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j_bum ◴[07 Jul 25 04:17 UTC] No.44486713[source]▶
I’m curious why you find it immoral?
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1. knome ◴[07 Jul 25 05:46 UTC] No.44487146[source]▶
I don't think it particularly moral to start heading down a path wherein we are essentially aiming to create enslaved cloned vat brains. I know that's not what they have, and that they're nowhere near that, but if they succeed in these early stages, more and more complex systems will follow in time. I don't think it a particularly healthy direction to explore.