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Huawei cloned Qwen and DeepSeek models, claimed as own

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114 points dworks | 4 comments | 06 Jul 25 16:26 UTC | HN request time: 0.615s | source
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bigmattystyles ◴[06 Jul 25 16:46 UTC] No.44482203[source]▶
Old maps (and perhaps new ones) used to add fake little alleys so a publisher could quickly spot publishers infringing on their IP rather than going out and actually mapping. I wonder if something similar is possible with LLMs.
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1. tedivm ◴[06 Jul 25 18:33 UTC] No.44482968[source]▶
When I was at Malwarebytes we had concerns that IOBit was stealing our database and passing it off on their own. While we had a lot of obvious proof, we felt it wasn't enough for the average person to understand.

To get real proof we created a new program that only existed on a single machine, and then added a signature for that application. This way there could be no claim that they independently added something to their database, as the program was not malware and literally impossible to actually find in the wild. Once they added it to their database we made a blog post and the issue got a lot of attention.

https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/29681-iobit-steals-mal...

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2. e9 ◴[06 Jul 25 19:21 UTC] No.44483250[source]▶
I was learning OS stuff and made a toy virus for myself back in 1999 and I thought it would be cool if antivirus officially recognized it so I sent a copy to antivirus company(Dr.Web. I think it was called?) and to my surprise now all antivirus databases have it and someone even has gif recording of machine booting up with it… so clearly they must be sharing not just db but also the executables etc
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3. tedivm ◴[06 Jul 25 19:46 UTC] No.44483450[source]▶
There are sharing programs between companies, yes, but that isn't what we're talking about here.
4. belter ◴[06 Jul 25 20:06 UTC] No.44483605[source]▶
> When I was at Malwarebytes

I hope you were not the one that decided to uninstall the product, you need to download a support utility... :-)