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daxfohl ◴[] No.44477018[source]
I expect it'll get shut down before it destroys everything. At some point it will turn on its master, be it Altman, Musk, or whoever. Something like that blackmail scenario Claude had a while back. Then the people who stand the most to gain from it will realize they also have the most to lose, are not invulnerable, and the next generation of leaders will be smarter about keeping things from blowing up.
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WalterBright ◴[] No.44477149[source]
I've never heard of a leader who wasn't sure he was smarter than everyone else and therefore entitled to force his ideas on everyone else.

Except for the Founding Fathers, who deliberately created a limited government with a Bill of Rights, and George Washington who, incredibly, turned down an offer of dictatorship.

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Teever ◴[] No.44477395[source]
There are many remarkable leaders throughout history and around the world who have done the best that they could for the people they found themselves leading lead and did so for noble reasons and not because they felt like they were better than them.

Tecumseh, Malcolm X, Angela Merkel, Cincinnatus, Eisenhower, and Gandhi all come to mind.

George Washington was surely an exceptional leader but he isn't the only one.

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WalterBright ◴[] No.44477613[source]
I don't know much about your examples, but did any of them turn down an offer of great power?
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Dr_Birdbrain ◴[] No.44477784[source]
George Washington was dubbed “The American Cincinnatus”. Cincinnati was named in honor of George Washington being like Cincinnatus. That should tell you everything you need to know.
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WalterBright ◴[] No.44481812[source]
Thanks. It tells me we need to go all the way back to 500 BC to find another example.

It shows how rare this is.

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1. Teever ◴[] No.44482005[source]
Or it shows us that it's relatively rare that someone gets the opportunity to pass up power in this sort of fashion.

More often what happens is that leaders make small and often imperceptible choices to not amass more power over time, and that series of choices prevent the scenario like what you're describing from occurring.

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2. WalterBright ◴[] No.44483671[source]
Everyone offered power has the opportunity to deny it.

Can you name a US President, other than Washington, who reduced the power of the Presidency? All the ones I can think of increased it.

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3. Teever ◴[] No.44484860[source]
It's true that the example of George Washington is extraordinary not just in American history but globally. I think however that focusing solely on American presidents, or only those who were explicitly offered absolute power constrains the conversation about what real leadership can be.

Passing up absolute power isn't the only way that a leader can show humility and grace, true leadership is more subtle and is expressed in the day to day decisions that a leader consciously makes which strengthen institutions rather than consolidate power.

Dwight Eisenhower led the largest army ever fielded during war and afterwards became President yet yielded his power and warned against the undue influence of the industrial-military complex, a system that he could have easily exploited for personal gain.

Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon not for personal gain, but because he believed it was best for the country knowing that it would cost him in the next election.

Outside of the presidency civil rights leaders like Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X held immense informal power and did so not for personal control, but for collective liberation. Their efforts ultimately ended in their untimely deaths but their sacrifice ultimately benefited the people they represented.

One of the most decorated military officers in U.S. history, General Smedley Butler spent his later years openly criticizing American imperialism and war profittering. He exposed a plot by wealthy elites to stage a fascist coup against Franklin Roosevelt which would have seen him put into a position of power. Rather than profit from the system he once served he spent his later years working to dismantle it.

True leadership isn't only about refusing a crown. It's more often about refusing to build a throne in the first place and choosing instead to lift others up and dismantling systems of oppression.