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Are we the baddies?

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696 points AndrewSwift | 14 comments | | HN request time: 0.69s | source | bottom
1. LeafItAlone ◴[] No.44479751[source]
I generally avoid George’s non-technical posts because they are… let’s say uninspired.

But here is one that actually makes sense. Of course the self-reflection with who he otherwise praises and spends his time with will never set in, but at least others may take the time to look inward and do something differently.

Something has to change. Even HN seems to have had an increase in sentiment like this in the past few years. Maybe I’m just noticing it more myself. Maybe it’s not just the existence of the Grape, but rather where it came from.

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2. alecco ◴[] No.44480218[source]
Hmmm. I'll just leave this here https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1940980667455836578
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3. j2kun ◴[] No.44480959[source]
I have to wonder if some people are just trying to follow the hype. This reads like the "put a cell phone camera on your dashboard to make a car self-driving" approach to reflection.
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4. LeafItAlone ◴[] No.44480993[source]
I don’t use Twitter. I believe it plays a big part in the degradation of society that geohot hot refers to in this article.

Can you share that that post is about and the significance of it in relation to this link?

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5. Yajirobe ◴[] No.44481447[source]
Ah yes geohot. The same guy who used LLMs in advent of code to get on the leaderboard
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7. spacemadness ◴[] No.44482324[source]
I think there is genuine burnout. Also it makes sense that the more grizzled on HN have lived long enough to see the fruits of the labor, perhaps just tangentially, and what it has wrought. Coupled with the industry treating its workers pretty poorly right now and shattering all illusions, it makes sense this sentiment is rising.
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8. nosioptar ◴[] No.44482649{3}[source]
If you change the domain to xcancel.com, you can see twitter stuff without being on twitter.

The tweet claims a startup built an ai cheating tool, another ripped them off, then a YC backed start up ripped the second group off. The YC backed guy claims he isn't worried about legal because he got the license from gpt.

(Wouldn't that be killer evidence in a lawsuit that the defendant didn't even attempt due diligence?)

https://xcancel.com/ns123abc/status/1940980667455836578

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9. dcrazy ◴[] No.44482712[source]
I was hopeful that by titling his post “Are we the baddies?” that he would spend at least a little time reflecting on his role in all this. But he didn’t.
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10. benreesman ◴[] No.44482721{3}[source]
Five years ago I got flagged on HN and heard back channel that I was getting passed over for stuff via some little whisper in the right ear because I've been calling this shit out since my come to Jesus moment around it nearly a decade ago.

Today? I don't feel like criticizing Thiel-adjacent authoritarian goons changes my net prospects all that much. It hurts me with 65 and helps with 45 (or something), instead of 95/5 like a few years ago.

I think the burnout is real: the consequences are too obvious and most people are reasonable deep down even if we all get carried away sometimes.

11. benreesman ◴[] No.44482734[source]
Whenever I send like a diff summary or something that the bot did I title it: ChatGPT That XYZ Dawg (busy building!)
12. LeafItAlone ◴[] No.44483125{4}[source]
Thank you for the summary; I appreciate it. I’m not really sure how it applies here though.
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13. nosioptar ◴[] No.44483573{5}[source]
No problem. I'm basically in the same boat on relevance.

I guess the YC backed guy shows the sort of carelessness that often leads to enshitification?

14. lannisterstark ◴[] No.44486734[source]
>he would spend at least a little time reflecting

It's Hotz. Why would you waste time expecting that.