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BLKNSLVR ◴[] No.44476587[source]
Only tangentially related, and a seemingly lost old-man battle: stop hiding my scrollbar.

Interesting article. Some points I didn't quite agree entirely with. There's a cost and practically limitation to some things (like a physical knob in a car for zooming in and out on a map - although that was probably just an example of intuitive use).

I just recently switched a toggle on a newly installed app that did the opposite of what it was labelled - I thought the label represented the current state, but it represented the state it would switch to if toggled. It became obvious once changed, but that seems the least helpful execution.

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panzi ◴[] No.44477638[source]
There was such a confusing toggle at the ticket machines for the train here in Austria many years ago. It was for immediately validating your ticket, which is a potentially costly mistake.

About the scroll bars: Also stop making them so thin that I have to have FPS skills to hit them! Looking at you, Firefox! (And possibly what standard CSS allows?) Yeah, I can scroll, but horizontally the scrollbar would be more convenient than pressing shift with my other hand.

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1. jama211 ◴[] No.44477709[source]
I’ve never known until this moment that shift makes you scroll horizontally, because I’ve always either used a mouse with horizontal scrolling built into the scroll wheel, or a touchpad.
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2. jeroenhd ◴[] No.44480058[source]
It's been a standard Windows feature for quite some time! I don't think people need to scroll horizontally as much now that most screens are no longer rectangular, but this feature goes back to the dialup era and very few people seem to know about it.
3. 1718627440 ◴[] No.44480942[source]
And Ctrl is used for the third dimension.