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Techno-feudalism and the rise of AGI: A future without economic rights?

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207 points lexandstuff | 2 comments | 05 Jul 25 21:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.662s | source
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smitty1e ◴[06 Jul 25 00:27 UTC] No.44476698[source]▶
> This paper calls for a redefined economic framework that ensures AGI-driven prosperity is equitably distributed through mechanisms such as universal AI dividends, progressive taxation, and decentralized governance.

Sincerely curious if there are working historical analogues of these approaches.

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tehjoker ◴[06 Jul 25 00:42 UTC] No.44476767[source]▶
Communism with "cybernetics" (computer driven economic planning) is the appropriate model if you take this to the logical conclusion. Fortunately, much of our economy is already planned this way (consider banks, amazon, walmart, shipping, etc.), it's just controlled for the benefit a small elite.

You have to ask, if we have AGI that's smarter than humans helping us plan the economy, why do we need an upper class? Aren't they completely superfluous?

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1. AnimalMuppet ◴[06 Jul 25 00:52 UTC] No.44476817[source]▶
Well, aren't the working class also superfluous, at least once the AGI gets enough automation in place?

So it would depend on which class the AGI decided to side with. And if you think you can pre-program that, I think you underestimate what it means to be a general intelligence...

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2. tehjoker ◴[06 Jul 25 02:25 UTC] No.44477313[source]▶
I suspect even with a powerful intelligence directing things, it will still be cheaper and lower cost to have humans doing various tasks. Robots need rare earth metals, humans run on renewable resources and are intelligent and self-contained without needing a network to make lots of decisions...